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Offline gumby_in_co

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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #300 on: September 23, 2018, 08:58:19 AM »
Start with the Blast, but ideally Counter, Pass and Sweep. Trying to think of a "call" to have the QB keep shortside as well if they over shift to the strength. Do you ever leave that up to the QB to go for it if he thinks he can out run the 1 or 2 guys on the short side?

I've had that call once or twice. Can't remember the key word. I usually ask the kid what word they want to use. Did it in a game once. We were a shoestring tackle away from taking it to the house.

We had a QB that we trusted to sneak from under center any time he saw it, but never did it from beast.
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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #301 on: September 23, 2018, 09:03:26 AM »
Anything thing I keep thinking, is it absolutely necessary that the nearest upback block backside edge? It would be nice to have him lead through the hole into the 2nd level, is it crucial he protects backside? I understand it can open up other players with him going to that side, but especially with 9-man I don't want to lose that extra blocker at the POA.

I'm pretty much alone in this sentiment, but the defense will really have to prove it to me for me to send a guy back side. I'm talking 3 TFLs in a row from the back side. Then, if it were up to me, I'd send someone backside maybe for a few plays. My thought is if they are coming that hard at the blast back, then let's run counter and score.

However . . . with our 2nd graders, the snap and our ability to catch it cleanly makes a backside blocker a necessity, so we always send one. We're prepared to send him front side if the defense gets stupid.
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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #302 on: September 23, 2018, 11:22:10 AM »
Thank you so much Mahonz and Gumby, can't wait to give it a try on grass.

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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #303 on: October 16, 2018, 09:22:21 PM »
Not sure if this has been covered, but letís say your running beast right. What adjustment do you make for a team diving into the gaps?

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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #304 on: October 17, 2018, 12:18:37 PM »
Not sure if this has been covered, but letís say your running beast right. What adjustment do you make for a team diving into the gaps?

We would domino call that. Playside all downblock to the inside gap and first blocking back kicks out the PSDE. Middle and inside BB's lead (off the TE's butt), the first looking inside to out, the second looking outside to in.
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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #305 on: October 17, 2018, 01:18:51 PM »
Not sure if this has been covered, but letís say your running beast right. What adjustment do you make for a team diving into the gaps?

Beast Left is shown. Here are the Super Smurfs.... 6 and 7 year olds.  A Gaps are still tight because the G's job is to protect the Center.

QT and PT block GOL....X and Y block GOO...inside sniffer blocks backside or runs ISO thru the B Gap depending on the backside threat ( in this photo he would run ISO ) ....middle sniffer blocks the edge defender even if it ends up as a double with Y ( in this photo he goes to CB ) ....outside sniffer runs ISO

If there is an overload then its the inside sniffer backs man or a domino to the Center. If a team likes to attack the gaps that is helpful per the Rules being that GAP is their first Rule.

You can see the massive bubble. The DC really struggled which was odd because at this level he is on the field.


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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #306 on: October 17, 2018, 01:39:29 PM »
Beast Left is shown. Here are the Super Smurfs.... 6 and 7 year olds.  A Gaps are still tight because the G's job is to protect the Center.

QT and PT block GOL....X and Y block GOO...inside sniffer blocks backside or runs ISO thru the B Gap depending on the backside threat ( in this photo he would run ISO ) ....middle sniffer blocks the edge defender even if it ends up as a double with Y ( in this photo he goes to CB ) ....outside sniffer runs ISO

If there is an overload then its the inside sniffer backs man or a domino to the Center. If a team likes to attack the gaps that is helpful per the Rules being that GAP is their first Rule.

You can see the massive bubble. The DC really struggled which was odd because at this level he is on the field.


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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #307 on: October 17, 2018, 02:45:37 PM »
Did the play shown go to the house?

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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #308 on: October 17, 2018, 04:22:12 PM »
Did the play shown go to the house?

That would depend on the snap....we are not quite there yet as far a trusting 30 or so good ones per game.
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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #309 on: October 17, 2018, 04:27:22 PM »
So mahonz,

You have individual splits based on position of where the kids line up??? Like the guards to center and the guards to tackles are entirely different...

I actually love that.....

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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #310 on: October 17, 2018, 05:14:36 PM »
So mahonz,

You have individual splits based on position of where the kids line up??? Like the guards to center and the guards to tackles are entirely different...

I actually love that.....

Normally no...but with kids so young the Center snaps and squats so we kept the G's in close. Once the Center can snap and step without flying footballs everywhere....the G's would be about 2 feet for the little guys.
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Re: The Beast....its not an Offense...its a mind F for the Defense....
« Reply #311 on: October 17, 2018, 05:27:53 PM »
So mahonz,

You have individual splits based on position of where the kids line up??? Like the guards to center and the guards to tackles are entirely different...

I actually love that.....

Older kids, the goal is 4, 5, 6 and 7 feet from inside out (unbalanced). I don't really harp on it.

The little guys:
Guards' feet are 1 football length from the C's feet.
Inside Tackle and Power Tackle are finger tips.
Y is Nasty.
X . . . Not sure. I'd prefer him to be at least finger tips, but I don't really harp on it.

Our next game is against a struggling team. If we get up, I will try to really stretch the splits to get it on film and to satisfy my curiosity.
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