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Re: The Importance of Special Teams
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2018, 01:21:36 PM »
I really haven't seen anyone discuss the new rules for FG/PAT protections. I understand the safety issues; however we never had an injury under the old rules.

My last season in MH we used the Navy Protection, which is both wings on the Kicker's foot side & slide protection away. We still stepped across, now it has to be behind.
What are these new rules?

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Re: The Importance of Special Teams
« Reply #31 on: May 31, 2018, 02:05:44 PM »
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The first rule change happened about 4 years ago. The OLine could no longer wrap their arms around another players legs. Then the rule changed to they had to step behind another lineman's legs instead of in front.

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Re: The Importance of Special Teams
« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2018, 02:52:28 PM »
Josh

If you count the players across, #1 nearest the sideline, #5 being the kicker & #11 nearest the far sideline.

1&6= Faster players who ran to the ball.

2,3,4, & 7 ran their lanes.

Either 5 or 8 played safety.

9 10 & 11 played contain

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How far are your contain players going downfield so that there arenít holes the runner could squirt through ? Are they angling toward the corner where itís kicked ?
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Re: The Importance of Special Teams
« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2018, 03:23:25 PM »
Josh

This really depends on the kicker. They start running their lanes till they locate the ball then squeeze. If the kicker is very good & consistently puts the ball inside the 10 & on target they may squeeze earlier.

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Re: The Importance of Special Teams
« Reply #34 on: May 31, 2018, 03:56:31 PM »
BG

The first rule change happened about 4 years ago. The OLine could no longer wrap their arms around another players legs. Then the rule changed to they had to step behind another lineman's legs instead of in front.

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Awesome. We still step in front. Go figure?  :-\
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Re: The Importance of Special Teams
« Reply #35 on: May 31, 2018, 04:04:25 PM »
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Originally we stepped in front & locked our arms around the inside man's thigh. When the locking rules came about(also not allowing the Oline to line up with intertwined legs), we changed to stepping behind. Then that changed.

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Re: The Importance of Special Teams
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2018, 01:40:59 PM »
The first rule change happened about 4 years ago. The OLine could no longer wrap their arms around another players legs.
Huh?  Interlocked interference has been illegal for a century!  And why would you want a wrap your arms around a blocking teammate's legs, anyway?  Or do you mean an opponent's legs?  I could see wanting to do that, but that's illegal too; you can contact the opponent's legs, but only in front.
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Then the rule changed to they had to step behind another lineman's legs instead of in front.
You sure that's even a rule?

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Re: The Importance of Special Teams
« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2018, 01:50:04 PM »
Originally we stepped in front & locked our arms around the inside man's thigh. When the locking rules came about(also not allowing the Oline to line up with intertwined legs), we changed to stepping behind. Then that changed.
Then you must mean the formation rules, not action after the snap.  I don't know what refinement was added, but it would've been very difficult to line up with an arm inside a teammate's near foot and still get your head at least level with the snapper's waist, unless you were next to the snapper or a player in a 2-point stance.

But you can still step any direction you want when the ball's in play.