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Offline chucknduck

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Re: Any AC's ever quit before the actual season started?
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2017, 11:47:33 PM »
I appreciate the feedback. There's some good hearted people on this site.... Hashed out a few things today.  We'll see what happens in heat of battle though.

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Re: Any AC's ever quit before the actual season started?
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2017, 01:03:22 AM »
I walked out on an Oklahoma drill when the DC started instructing the O-Linemen and then argued with me.

I said, "Looks like you have it handled. I'll be at the mall," and off I went.

Worked out fantastically. And still paying off.

Funny. You don't seem like a "mall guy" to me.
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Re: Any AC's ever quit before the actual season started?
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2017, 01:03:55 AM »
I appreciate the feedback. There's some good hearted people on this site.... Hashed out a few things today.  We'll see what happens in heat of battle though.

Very cool

I had a coach quit om me last season one week before game one. He went postal on all of us after our Jamboree. He was also one of my best friends.

He has yet to speak too me since that day.  I have no clue what set him off.

Its good to resolve. I am bothered by his actions and think about him a lot. I hope he reads this and calls me...or takes my calls. I couldn't give two chits if we ever coach together again....hand been on and off for the last 15 years.

Its our friendship that I miss. Way more important than some silly game.
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Re: Any AC's ever quit before the actual season started?
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2017, 07:02:42 AM »
Very cool

I had a coach quit om me last season one week before game one. He went postal on all of us after our Jamboree. He was also one of my best friends.

He has yet to speak too me since that day.  I have no clue what set him off.

Its good to resolve. I am bothered by his actions and think about him a lot. I hope he reads this and calls me...or takes my calls. I couldn't give two chits if we ever coach together again....hand been on and off for the last 15 years.

Its our friendship that I miss. Way more important than some silly game.
Honestly, one of the things that always drew me to coaching was the friendships.

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Re: Any AC's ever quit before the actual season started?
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2017, 03:25:03 PM »
Honestly, one of the things that always drew me to coaching was the friendships.

For me, it was the hot moms.   :P

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Re: Any AC's ever quit before the actual season started?
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2017, 03:56:54 PM »
For me, it was the hot moms.   :P

Next season, Mahonz and I recycle back down to 2nd graders and moms still in their 20's.
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Re: Any AC's ever quit before the actual season started?
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2017, 04:01:56 PM »
Next season, Mahonz and I recycle back down to 2nd graders and moms still in their 20's.

Just may be time for me to come out of retirement! :P

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Re: Any AC's ever quit before the actual season started?
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2017, 06:11:28 PM »
Next season, Mahonz and I recycle back down to 2nd graders and moms still in their 20's.

I just went back down to 4th/5th grade and my wife is no longer the team mom. Based on initial meetings with parents, I may have overestimated this effect. :(

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Re: Any AC's ever quit before the actual season started?
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2017, 09:06:39 PM »
For me, it was the hot moms.   :P
There are 2 or 3 orgs in our conference thay are loaded with talent in thay aspect. The teams might suck but my oh my....

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Re: Any AC's ever quit before the actual season started?
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2017, 11:37:02 PM »
I was once fired before the season started. It sucked, but I moved on.
Happened to me in 2008.  I think I was better off not continuing in that club.  When I described it at Delphi's single wing etc. forum, Dave Cisar advised me to "run" away from it.

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Re: Any AC's ever quit before the actual season started?
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2017, 05:09:05 PM »
I have been a DC, an OC and an HC. I feel your pain coach. My policy as a Head Coach is this. The Offense belongs to the OC and The Defense belongs to the DC. During games they call the plays and have their player rotation already worked out. I simply over see the team. They are really the ones in charge of their show. We collaborate as a staff to come up with a way not to gas the kids who play both ways. It has worked out well and we all have been best friends forever.

Honestly if your friend isn't open to input from you then your efforts and time are not valued. Better to leave still loving the sport and loving the kids than to stick around and resent the whole shebang!
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Re: Any AC's ever quit before the actual season started?
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2017, 09:56:47 PM »
I don't know your situation at your school.  I will say that it is a lot easier for a bunch of youth coaches to say just walk away because, well... we're youth coaches.  We're volunteers.  Largely, there's no real skin off our nose if we just walk away.  At HS level, there could be a lot more factors involved.  Do you have a teaching position at that school? Is the teaching job tied into the coaching position?  Stipends? What damage does it do to your reputation as a coach in the area? Other teaching/coaching positions available at another school if you 'just walk away'? Other job prospects outside of coaching/teaching? etc...

Sounds like a closed door meeting is in order.  It may even take several.  If you decide the situation is so miserable that you have to walk, then so be it.  You may even look into resigning as the OC but, staying on as a position coach.  You know what's best.  But, if you can manage to ride out the season and, then find a better fit for yourself in another program after the season is over, that may be a better alternative than just walking.   

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Re: Any AC's ever quit before the actual season started?
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2017, 10:17:22 PM »
I don't want to sound like a dork but what record does this HC have over the last years?

Sounds like an old coach that I know that wins a ton of games. Scoreboard will win out 9 out of 10 when it comes to coaches.

Just sayin  ;)
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Re: Any AC's ever quit before the actual season started?
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2017, 09:24:22 AM »
It's relatively simple.  I'd let him know that either I have 100% control of the offense - happy to take his input, but player placement, substitutions and play calling are my final call - or I walk.  And the second time he violates that (I'll give him one "oops" and let him know that's the last one), I'm out. 

I had that arrangement with my HC, and over time I learned to run stuff by him for input, and pull him in when I wasn't sure of something - let him feel like he was part of the process.  But he never overruled a single offensive decision I made.  He hammered me for it when it didn't work, but never went against it in the moment.  That said, it wasn't HS, so it wasn't how either of us made our livings...
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Re: Any AC's ever quit before the actual season started?
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2017, 12:34:08 PM »
It's relatively simple.  I'd let him know that either I have 100% control of the offense - happy to take his input, but player placement, substitutions and play calling are my final call - or I walk.  And the second time he violates that (I'll give him one "oops" and let him know that's the last one), I'm out. 


It seems from the OP that this is what the HC agreed to in the first place. I agree with the others that say you need to have a meeting and just reiterate that you want to do what you were originally told you would be able to do.
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