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Offline PSLCOACHROB

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Re: Coaches behavior
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2015, 08:13:45 AM »
I apparently have a gift for really annoying officials without raising my voice or cursing, but that's about the extent of me getting upset on the football field.

"Awesome, are we allowed to do that, too?" is not really a winner with them, as it turns out, for example.
As it turns out, no, you are not allowed to do that. Only them.

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Re: Coaches behavior
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2015, 08:18:42 AM »
I do carry a clipboard. Never thrown it though. Dropped it a few times. Our offense has a bunch of formations and tags, and well just a bunch of stuff, so I like to be aware what the heck we are running during the game so I know who to yell at. Plus, I have been know to take some notes during the game and even draw up a defensive front or two so we can adjust. Maybe I should just buy a small whiteboard. As is, I have one big white board(3'x4') that wuld look really funny if I carried it around. Plus it would be very dangerous if I were to actually throw it.

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Re: Coaches behavior
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2015, 08:29:29 AM »
As it turns out, no, you are not allowed to do that. Only them.

The other big one was in a really close game against an undefeated team.  They scored on a long run right near the end, and an official on the side away from us, early in the run, threw a flag for a block in the back on a receiver.  Just after the touchdown he picked the flag up.

So another coach of ours yelled to the official on our side, "Why did he pick it up so late?"

So I responded, "Because before then he didn't know it was going to be a touchdown."

It did not go over well.  Hey, it's not my fault they're eavesdropping from right next to us.
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Re: Coaches behavior
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2015, 08:44:31 AM »
I'm pretty much a realist. For the most part, the results directly correlate to the effort given.  Some days we play well others we seem to go through the motions.  The kids are required to provide an honest "Critique" of the game at the beginning of the next practice.  They know there is no sugar coating or glossing over as I will correct them with examples.  It forces them to reflect and think. 

To come across an say "we or you suck" defeats everything you do in practice to prepare! 

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Re: Coaches behavior
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2015, 08:53:34 AM »
I don't yell or scream, just throw my hat and rub my head. All the while trying to figure out how to fix what is happening. I talk to refs all game, as calm as can be. Screaming at them will not help, at all. End of a bad game I say, " Take it all in, we got a lot of work to do. Practice Monday to get ready for our next game."
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Re: Coaches behavior
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2015, 12:15:39 PM »
Sometimes officials need to be coached up a little. I have seen officials take plays off just like kids do. Some of them actually react the same way kids do when you let them know about it.

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Re: Coaches behavior
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2015, 12:50:51 PM »
The other big one was in a really close game against an undefeated team.  They scored on a long run right near the end, and an official on the side away from us, early in the run, threw a flag for a block in the back on a receiver.  Just after the touchdown he picked the flag up.

So another coach of ours yelled to the official our side, "Why did he pick it up so late?"

So I responded, "Because before then he didn't know it was going to be a touchdown."

It did not go over well.  Hey, it's not my fault they're eavesdropping from right next to us.
I have had a few refs get upset with my "comments". Sorry, I wasn't talking to you. I generally look people in the eye when I talk to them. I never get rude and if I even come close I apologize. I have only once gotten really upset. We had an opponent that was guilty of a snap infraction every single play of every single game. My dline was made aware of it because I had taught them to fire off if the center moved after he was set. I didn't want them to get an offsides penalty so told them to wait for the ref to throw the flag. Anyway, it happens, our kids come out of the stance when the kid moves the ball and are yelling "flag! flag!" while the other team snaps the ball. I let the ref know that I am pretty sure it is a penalty(I actually looked it up) he said no it isn't. So then I say "well, if you look under section so and so of the Fed book you might discover that it is". I was asked if I was looking for a flag. Of course I said "yup but on them for snap infraction". At the end of the day, I just want the game to be called fairly.

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Re: Coaches behavior
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2015, 12:58:36 PM »
COunt me in as part of the clipboard crew.  Has my depth chart, play calling sheet and play tracker (results of our plays).  Comes in handy in the 4th quarter to know what you're running well against a team that day.

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Re: Coaches behavior
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2015, 01:00:22 PM »
I like a wrist coach with my depth chart.

It was huge for me when I was a head coach for little guys and was on the field all the time.
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Re: Coaches behavior
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2015, 01:32:14 PM »
Sometimes officials need to be coached up a little. I have seen officials take plays off just like kids do. Some of them actually react the same way kids do when you let them know about it.

We tend to get the refs on their way out to retirement because they can't keep up with the high school games.

Big play away last year vs. the # 1 team, we throw a 35 yard bomb, kid catches  it, runs like 5 yards, gets tackled by the facemask, slams into the ground and the ball pops out after both knees were down.  Ref was 30 yards downfield and never saw the facemask or his knees hit the ground.  I go nuts and then go to the head ref and he said it's the other refs call.  I tell the ref he can't make a call from 30 yards away and if anything give the kid who made the effort and nice grab the benefit of the doubt, he says he seen it all and he fumbled before he hit the ground.  I then ask if he seen the facemask and the ref said he didn't.  So my kid is down crying, EMT comes out so I talk to the ref again and he tells me the facemask was unintentional.  So I say, "wait, you just said you didn't see it" and we argue till my kid is off the field.

After the game the other team's HC, who I am good friends with, tells me it was in fact a catch and my player fumbled well after he hit the ground.

Get home to watch the game that was filmed in the booth above the other team's bench and sure enough, not only did my kid catch the ball, get face masked and fumbled after both knees slid on the ground for a few feet, the ref was at least 25 yards from the ball.




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Re: Coaches behavior
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2015, 02:35:00 PM »
How would most of you handle this situation. Would you confront the coach or talk to the league president?

I'm a big believer in "chain of command" and letting somebody fix themselves before going over their head. So yes, I would confront him. By my nature, I'd try to be non-confrontational about it and try to get him to recognize his error, but that's after I've "24-hour ruled" myself. If it happened in front of me, I'm sure I'd do something stupid and try to publicly embarrass him like he did to the kids.
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Re: Coaches behavior
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2015, 05:11:58 PM »
I am notorious for jawing with officials during the games.  Mostly friendly banter but every once in a while I let a zinger slip to see if they are paying attention. 

For instance.  "Hey for my own information, could you watch the TE on the next play and tell me if that qualifies as Bear Hug or just Holding ?"  OR  "I am just wondering what the various jobs are for the officials. For instance, does the Back Judge, who said the kid stepped out of bounds from the middle of the field, Out Rank the Side Judge who made no call and was 20 yards closer to the play?"       
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Re: Coaches behavior
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2015, 05:22:24 PM »
I used to carry a clipboard, but I kept throwing it so I stopped. lol

I broke a couple back in the day. Now I just carry a laminated play sheet and a depth chart. I'd really have to work hard to break those.

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Re: Coaches behavior
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2015, 08:24:58 PM »
I remember my HS coaches used to where those nut hugger coach shorts from Bike with a clipboard shoved down the back. Anybody know where I can get those shorts?
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Re: Coaches behavior
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2015, 08:31:01 PM »
A lot of coaches I know are proud of their outbursts, talking about getting penalties from the sidelines or even kicked out of games. I am proud to say I've never gotten so much as a warning from an official. Any goof can lose their cool when things go wrong, but it takes discipline to stay calm. Discipline, isn't that something we try to teach the kids once in a while? And they wonder why their kids take stupid retaliatory penalties after the whistle.  ::)