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Offline z80

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Starting off a team / costs
« on: September 07, 2016, 02:02:19 AM »
Hello Coaches,
i am searching your advise as i have seen in here quite soom did set up a new org/team.
My situation is a little different as i am from Germany and Football is not at all popular here.
We did already hat a team some years ago which was pretty successfull, but had to start something new at a new place.

Now comes my question: Reading through all the posts here and seeing what you charge on fees from the kids, i have no idea how you manage that financially.
I would really much appreciate if someone had a "business/financial" plan they could share.

Thanks for your help

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Re: Starting off a team / costs
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2016, 08:06:09 AM »
I did 2 Coaches Clinics in Germany- Dusseldorf
I was quite surprised to see how well coached many of the teams were

There is a free book on my site on how to start a program- it may be of some help
http://winningyouthfootball.com
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.

Winston Churchill

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Re: Starting off a team / costs
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2016, 08:08:00 AM »
I did 2 Coaches Clinics in Germany- Dusseldorf
I was quite surprised to see how well coached many of the teams were

There is a free book on my site on how to start a program- it may be of some help
http://winningyouthfootball.com


Dave is modest.  His book is excellent and a must read for anyone starting a program.  Start there.

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Re: Starting off a team / costs
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2016, 12:32:20 AM »
I did 2 Coaches Clinics in Germany- Dusseldorf
I was quite surprised to see how well coached many of the teams were

There is a free book on my site on how to start a program- it may be of some help
http://winningyouthfootball.com


Thanks Dave,
after reading on this page for some years now your book was one of the best ressources i have ever seen on building up an org.
What i was specially interessted in was the financial side.
While i did my homework and calculated the costs and compared them as well with other teams in Germany in ended up with figures that are way different  than what i see on this site. This is why i am curious to learn, how e.g. some teams here manage to run on fees of about 100-200$ pa which even includes equipment jersey etc, while here we are more around 300, without equipment and jerseys etc.
Essentialy want to understand if it is just the different markets or do I miss some points/ideas.
Many thanks for your help

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Re: Starting off a team / costs
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2016, 08:21:56 AM »
Thanks Dave,
after reading on this page for some years now your book was one of the best ressources i have ever seen on building up an org.
What i was specially interessted in was the financial side.
While i did my homework and calculated the costs and compared them as well with other teams in Germany in ended up with figures that are way different  than what i see on this site. This is why i am curious to learn, how e.g. some teams here manage to run on fees of about 100-200$ pa which even includes equipment jersey etc, while here we are more around 300, without equipment and jerseys etc.
Essentialy want to understand if it is just the different markets or do I miss some points/ideas.
Many thanks for your help
Thank you

There may be differences in prices we pay for gear and what you pay
We are able to charge about $195 USD
But we stretch the life of our gear out as follows:
Helmets 5 years
Pants 2 years
Game Jerseys 2 years
Practice Jerseys 5 years
SHoulder Pads 10 years

Our league fees are also very reasonable at just $650 USD and we pay nothing for our practice fields
We partner with our local High School so our game field rent is just $150 per game

Everyones costs vary a bit based on local situations

Best of luck

Been to Germany 3 times now- spent a week in Muchen- Munich
Absolutely love it
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.

Winston Churchill

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Re: Starting off a team / costs
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2016, 08:36:05 AM »
Having been to Germany with Dave I can also say that Germany really does well with American football. I still am in contact with a few of those coaches on FaceBook, & follow some of the highlights. The growth of football there is wonderful to see.

Joe
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Bill Walsh

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Re: Starting off a team / costs
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2016, 01:16:31 AM »
Thank you guys,
yes football is starting to pick up a little more the last year.
When there was still the NFL Europe there was quite a hype, went down since then, but is picking upsince last year as now you can at least see 2 games a week on TV :-)

Back to topic, the difference here is that typically the football clubs associate with a bigger sports club to get it going until they reach around 200+ members to be able to survive alone.
It is very common over here that the players have to have their own equipment, only the game jersey is provided for the games. If we could hand out more that might give us an edge over the other clubs, but i can not see how we can finance that.
Maybe if one of you gentlemen would be willing, i could share a simple cost break down and you could help me with your experience.
Thanks again.

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Re: Starting off a team / costs
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2016, 09:21:40 AM »
Thank you guys,
yes football is starting to pick up a little more the last year.
When there was still the NFL Europe there was quite a hype, went down since then, but is picking upsince last year as now you can at least see 2 games a week on TV :-)

Back to topic, the difference here is that typically the football clubs associate with a bigger sports club to get it going until they reach around 200+ members to be able to survive alone.
It is very common over here that the players have to have their own equipment, only the game jersey is provided for the games. If we could hand out more that might give us an edge over the other clubs, but i can not see how we can finance that.
Maybe if one of you gentlemen would be willing, i could share a simple cost break down and you could help me with your experience.
Thanks again.

Coach- Im aware- the players buy football "kits" as you call them
Yes this does require out of pocket expenses that you have to spread across several years
You might start by buying up as many used "kits" as you can at the end of every season
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.

Winston Churchill