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Re: Dedication Off Season Training vs. Playing a Spring Sport
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2018, 04:45:54 PM »
I am all for kids playing sports v. Spring outs. Except when they end of the bench and not contributing. Those guys are just looking to not work
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Re: Dedication Off Season Training vs. Playing a Spring Sport
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2018, 09:47:32 AM »
In complete candor, for this question I am taking off my "Coach hat" and putting on my "Dad hat" because I am looking for advice for my son.  But, this question could apply to other high school athletes as well.

Having said that, here is my question:  For a high school athlete who wants to play football in high school and hopefully in college, is it better to spend the entire off season solely dedicated to lifting and training for football?  Or, is playing a Spring sport such as lacrosse more beneficial to achieving his football goals?

I have always thought playing multiple sports was better, but am I wrong? 

My son has enjoyed playing lacrosse over the years, but now that he is a freshman in high school, he thinks playing lacrosse will take way or hinder his physical development (because it will take time away from working out). 

I appreciate any advice or opinions.

Thanks!


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Re: Dedication Off Season Training vs. Playing a Spring Sport
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2018, 10:58:45 AM »
Bruh...

http://www.dumcoach.com/strength-speed-conditioning/multi-sport-athletes-az-cardinal-strength-coach/


I love that clip.  I showed my son this clip when you first posted it.  But, it did not make the impact on him I thought it would. 

His school just hired a new head coach who met with the team for the first time yesterday.  The new coach encourage the boys to play other sports!
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Re: Dedication Off Season Training vs. Playing a Spring Sport
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2018, 03:04:47 PM »
The new coach encourage the boys to play other sports!

That's pretty much the de facto approach for most football coaches.  It's the coaches in the other sports who start telling the kids to specialize.

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Re: Dedication Off Season Training vs. Playing a Spring Sport
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2018, 11:47:31 AM »
He should play what he wants to play, without regard to a sport from another season.  Meaning - don't not play lacrosse because of football, play or don't play lacrosse because of lacrosse.

My son played football and baseball until HS.  He tried out for baseball as a freshman and was cut.  Never did a winter sport.  So he was a football only kid, but it was only because he had no interest in anything else except baseball, which he wasn't good enough to play.

My 13 year old daughter is breaking my heart.  She's tall - 5'8" at 13 - and a pretty good athlete.  But she has ZERO drive.  She plays soccer, and that's it.  She's okay at soccer - nowhere near as good as she could be, mostly because she's not aggressive enough all the time.  May not be good enough to even make the HS team.  She did basketball for a few years, but now she hates it.  Probably because I pushed - not hard, but I pushed, and she's all about resisting anything I push for.  Breaks my heart because she could be good enough at hoops to play in college for sure, but she won't do it.  F*cking kills me inside.

That's a shame I always had good luck with Soccer players on my daughters Travel and CYO teams.   They understand spacing, and ball movement, usually

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Re: Dedication Off Season Training vs. Playing a Spring Sport
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2018, 11:49:24 AM »
To answer the OP.  My son just did CYO HS basketball which isn't a huge comittment, so he could run Rippetoe's program in season.  I think he is going to throw the shot in the spring.   This pleases me because he can learn the technical "speed lifts" from someone besides me, who has no idea how to coach them.

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Re: Dedication Off Season Training vs. Playing a Spring Sport
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2018, 08:34:56 AM »
Nieces husband was all state DE, played basketball and LAX...parlayed into full ride at UCF

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Re: Dedication Off Season Training vs. Playing a Spring Sport
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2018, 03:04:42 PM »
In complete candor, for this question I am taking off my "Coach hat" and putting on my "Dad hat" because I am looking for advice for my son.  But, this question could apply to other high school athletes as well.

Having said that, here is my question:  For a high school athlete who wants to play football in high school and hopefully in college, is it better to spend the entire off season solely dedicated to lifting and training for football?  Or, is playing a Spring sport such as lacrosse more beneficial to achieving his football goals?

I have always thought playing multiple sports was better, but am I wrong? 

My son has enjoyed playing lacrosse over the years, but now that he is a freshman in high school, he thinks playing lacrosse will take way or hinder his physical development (because it will take time away from working out). 

I appreciate any advice or opinions.

Thanks!

Lacrosse is fine if you keep him lifting in season. If not, you are giving up eight mos of lifting over four years ....each time he misses those two mos, it leaves him weak heading into the summer putting the football coach in a tough situation...

My advice, more calories during lax season and two lifts a week....push, pull and squat. Five sets of five minumum.
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Re: Dedication Off Season Training vs. Playing a Spring Sport
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2018, 11:09:43 AM »
If not, you are giving up eight mos of lifting over four years ....each time he misses those two mos, it leaves him weak heading into the summer putting the football coach in a tough situation...


This is my son's argument for not playing lacrosse.  Although he would still lift at least a couple of times per week, he thinks playing lacrosse would limit how much he could lift for football. While I know that is true, like many of the responses to my post, I see the benefits to him doing both.  Ultimately, the decision is his.  I just wanted to post my question to see what others thought.
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Re: Dedication Off Season Training vs. Playing a Spring Sport
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2018, 11:45:49 AM »
This is my son's argument for not playing lacrosse.  Although he would still lift at least a couple of times per week, he thinks playing lacrosse would limit how much he could lift for football. While I know that is true, like many of the responses to my post, I see the benefits to him doing both.  Ultimately, the decision is his.  I just wanted to post my question to see what others thought.

Ask him how many of his teammates have the conditioning to play an entire lax game...then ask whats more important a gassed 300lb bench presser in the 4th quarter or highly conditioned athlete in the 4th quarter.  In game strength and conditioning is all that matters just gotta find a relation to guide your boy properly lol
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Re: Dedication Off Season Training vs. Playing a Spring Sport
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2018, 12:45:52 PM »
This is my son's argument for not playing lacrosse.  Although he would still lift at least a couple of times per week, he thinks playing lacrosse would limit how much he could lift for football. While I know that is true, like many of the responses to my post, I see the benefits to him doing both.  Ultimately, the decision is his.  I just wanted to post my question to see what others thought.

Hes probably correct. There is so much running in SOME lacrosse programs that gaining muscle is tough....even maintenance is tough. Hard gainers have it even worse and may end up ill since recovery becomes an issue.

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Re: Dedication Off Season Training vs. Playing a Spring Sport
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2018, 04:36:52 PM »
Ask him how many of his teammates have the conditioning to play an entire lax game...then ask whats more important a gassed 300lb bench presser in the 4th quarter or highly conditioned athlete in the 4th quarter.  In game strength and conditioning is all that matters just gotta find a relation to guide your boy properly lol

I agree!  Unfortunately, I've raised a stubborn 15 yr old who thinks he knows it all.  But, in his defense, he is doing more than just bench, squats and dead lift.  He is also working on his core and doing agility and conditioning exercises several days per week as well.  I still have a few more weeks to convince him (or have has buddies convince him) to play lax.  But it is definitely getting close to final decision time. 
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Re: Dedication Off Season Training vs. Playing a Spring Sport
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2018, 04:54:33 PM »
I agree!  Unfortunately, I've raised a stubborn 15 yr old who thinks he knows it all.  But, in his defense, he is doing more than just bench, squats and dead lift.  He is also working on his core and doing agility and conditioning exercises several days per week as well.  I still have a few more weeks to convince him (or have has buddies convince him) to play lax.  But it is definitely getting close to final decision time.


21% of lax college players are recruited div 1

16% for football.

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Re: Dedication Off Season Training vs. Playing a Spring Sport
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2018, 08:49:32 AM »
I think participating in a sport has usefulness beyond straight physical conditioning.  I didn't play football my Jr. year of HS (long story, still pissed about it, LOL), and felt like it took me a few games into the basketball season to get my legs under me.  I was missing, for lack of a better word, that game toughness/conditioning that you only get when you're competing for real.  I worked out and played a lot of hoops that fall, but still felt like I wasn't as prepared as I was coming out of football the other two years.  And frankly, it's not like football conditioning was relevant, I was in better shape the year I didn't play.  It was a mental thing.

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Re: Dedication Off Season Training vs. Playing a Spring Sport
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2018, 10:26:13 AM »
I was missing, for lack of a better word, that game toughness/conditioning that you only get when you're competing for real.  It was a mental thing.

Nothing gets you ready for competition like competition...

Funny you should mention this!  Last night my son finally said he may now play lacrosse because he thinks competing against varsity level players in lacrosse (because he will likely get some varsity playing time as a freshmen) will help him with his nerves and confidence for football.  He is not afraid to play or hit, but rather, he puts so much pressure on himself to try to be a "great" player, that he gets extremely nervous before football games.  Since he has not desire to play lacrosse in college, he is hoping playing will help him learn how to just go out and have fun playing.  Not sure if that makes sense to you, but it made sense to me when he said it last night.
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