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Re: Running power T this year
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2019, 07:10:29 PM »
I thought I would provide some feedback from running the power T this past year. We went 4-3 this year, losing to some teams who  played very aggressive defense and were excellent at tackling. However, when the offense was clicking it looked phenomenal. In one game our first 2 plays went for long touchdowns. You are watching all this movement in the backfield and then pop there goes the FB for 60 yards. In another game we scored 54 points.

The big drawback came to light when facing the teams who beat us. Because the power t is packed in tight in the backfield it  was difficult to get outside. Those teams capitalized on that and just prevented the offense from getting a start.

For next year I want to stick with the basic structure of the power T but add in some formation change ups and a toss sweep. Any suggestions?

The power T would crush it using mega splits with the older kids...assuming your info is accurate.

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Re: Running power T this year
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2019, 08:24:17 PM »
That is intriguing to me.  I have considered widening out splits , but everytime I give it some thought, I just get nervous. Itís like that feeling I used to get when I thought ďI should go skydiving.Ē But then I realized why jump out of a perfectly good airplane.  Itís hard to shake that feeling that they are just going to blow right thru the gap.

I did watch your presentation on the new age power I at coaches-clinic, and I must admit it is tempting to widen out the splits. We will be having spring ball, which is more like a 5 week camp followed by a scrimmage. Maybe I can toy with it then. Any words of advice are welcome.

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Re: Running power T this year
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2019, 10:01:01 AM »
That is intriguing to me.  I have considered widening out splits , but everytime I give it some thought, I just get nervous. Itís like that feeling I used to get when I thought ďI should go skydiving.Ē But then I realized why jump out of a perfectly good airplane.  Itís hard to shake that feeling that they are just going to blow right thru the gap.

I did watch your presentation on the new age power I at coaches-clinic, and I must admit it is tempting to widen out the splits. We will be having spring ball, which is more like a 5 week camp followed by a scrimmage. Maybe I can toy with it then. Any words of advice are welcome.

First and foremost do not use a rhythmic cadence. Go on first sound.  Have the QB mix the tempo so the D cant shoot gaps on the run. 

Use a simple rule like GOL and then have an Overload call where everyone dominoes to the Center.

The trick is to always have your blocking surface too include the TE(s) blocking towards the Center and have your backs always blocking any edge player and why the Power T would crush it....you always have enough backs to complete the deal.

Practice and get very good at climbing.

Shuffle talent up and down the OL. All positions except Center are interchangeable.  This was a HUGE discovery for us. For example you scout and are playing an odd front. Put your best climbers at OG. Vs the Even front put them at OT.

"Run em" is key. If the Defender wants to go left...run em left....right run em right...bull rush then sumo.  The Power T with all its cross firing delays the backs a click going into the "hole" so they can now adjust off blocks and bend their path. This was also a HUGE discovery for us. There are no holes for the backs to hit....only monuments.

Dont worry about going under Center. If the D overloads then allow the QB to keep at anytime regardless of play call and hit opposite the overload.  Plays like this keep the Defense at bay. Practice for this and give him carte blanc.....or if you feel he needs help....make it a call once aligned. OR....if he sees a giant bubble in either A GAP...TAKE IT ! This is a deadly play especially vs teams that will walk a LB'r up into an A Gap. Team is taught to carry out whatever the play call but without the foot ball.

https://youtu.be/mYWVkHvMIhE

email Coach Gumby. He has been the OL coach for 4 seasons now and has mega splits down to a science. He is a former foot to foot DW coach.

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Spring would be a great training ground.








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Re: Running power T this year
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2019, 12:12:26 PM »
I've had my offense prepared for two years now. Double tight wishbone with wide splits. I believe it comes from Coach Christmas at North Hall.

As far as the power-T is concerned, a few years ago I coached at a school that ran power-T. All the small schools here in Michigan run the power-T. They all use tight splits and always pull the BSG.

If you're going to run wide splits with T, I would suggest getting Faurot's book and Wilkerson's book. Keep in mind that the split-T used splits of 2-4 ft across the line. while Mahonz' mega splits are much wider. However, they would give you a good understanding of how to merge the concepts.

One thing that I was always curious about with the mega splits and direct snap is whether or not you might have D-linemen who could beat the snap and blow the play up the before it even has a chance to develop.

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Re: Running power T this year
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2019, 12:28:25 PM »


One thing that I was always curious about with the mega splits and direct snap is whether or not you might have D-linemen who could beat the snap and blow the play up the before it even has a chance to develop.

Valid concern and why a first sound cadence is imperative.

Had that head slapping moment during our first ever game running mega splits. Didn't even dawn on me a rhythmic cadence would be the issue so we killed it and went first sound at halftime.

Problem solved.

Then we learned how to change up the tempo of a first sound cadence. My worry was the OL never knew the when the ball was going to be snapped....so we taught them to be hair triggers and that worked. Then we had the OLM identify their man so the QB now allowed for that and then snapped the football. With enough practice as a unit....they all dial in nicely.
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Re: Running power T this year
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2019, 12:51:52 PM »
I've had my offense prepared for two years now. Double tight wishbone with wide splits. I believe it comes from Coach Christmas at North Hall.

As far as the power-T is concerned, a few years ago I coached at a school that ran power-T. All the small schools here in Michigan run the power-T. They all use tight splits and always pull the BSG.

If you're going to run wide splits with T, I would suggest getting Faurot's book and Wilkerson's book. Keep in mind that the split-T used splits of 2-4 ft across the line. while Mahonz' mega splits are much wider. However, they would give you a good understanding of how to merge the concepts.

One thing that I was always curious about with the mega splits and direct snap is whether or not you might have D-linemen who could beat the snap and blow the play up the before it even has a chance to develop.

Glad you posted this because I was just about to mention that there are several variations of the ďTĒ that use wide splits. 

Also would love to see how a double dive style offense would work with mega splits. 
« Last Edit: January 05, 2019, 12:53:38 PM by Beansko82 »

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Re: Running power T this year
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2019, 03:35:16 PM »
Also would love to see how a double dive style offense would work with mega splits.
This should give you an idea...
https://youtu.be/UZAVS7m0C7E

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Re: Running power T this year
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2019, 03:45:11 PM »
Glad you posted this because I was just about to mention that there are several variations of the ďTĒ that use wide splits. 

Also would love to see how a double dive style offense would work with mega splits.

We ran double dive w/ a nasty split TE & OSV blocking.If the DE lined up inside the TE, back went outside. If he lined up outside the TE, back went inside. Very simple and effective. That was at 9u.

W/ the big boys (13u) we ran double dive w/ wide splits & DOWN series blocking. Very effective.

Thing we do diferent than most double dive teams is we actually have a ride. Most DD teams just give a quick fake. Ours is a tight exaggerated mesh that really confuses the D at this level. The refs as well. Had that play blown dead while weíre running for a TD a number of times.
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Re: Running power T this year
« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2019, 04:54:24 PM »
Yeah thatís a good looking team there.  I watched the whole series, are you planning on running their entire package, or just the inside belly series?

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Re: Running power T this year
« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2019, 04:56:55 PM »
We ran double dive w/ a nasty split TE & OSV blocking.If the DE lined up inside the TE, back went outside. If he lined up outside the TE, back went inside. Very simple and effective. That was at 9u.

W/ the big boys (13u) we ran double dive w/ wide splits & DOWN series blocking. Very effective.

Thing we do diferent than most double dive teams is we actually have a ride. Most DD teams just give a quick fake. Ours is a tight exaggerated mesh that really confuses the D at this level. The refs as well. Had that play blown dead while weíre running for a TD a number of times.

Were you changing up the blocking scheme depending on who gets the ball? Or were you sticking with the veer or down regardless?

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Re: Running power T this year
« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2019, 07:25:43 PM »
Yeah thatís a good looking team there.  I watched the whole series, are you planning on running their entire package, or just the inside belly series?
I purchased their stuff a couple of years ago. I was going with blast, belly, and smash as the primary plays. Just have't had a chance to run it yet.

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Re: Running power T this year
« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2019, 08:01:58 PM »
Were you changing up the blocking scheme depending on who gets the ball? Or were you sticking with the veer or down regardless?

Blocking scheme never changed. All that chaged was the back that was getting the ball & the POA.

It was particularly effective vs good teams. I saw Bellevue destroy DLS w/ it to snap their win streak. Left a big impression. Weíve been running it w/ great success ever since. Iíve started to play w/ the idea of a ďtriple diveĒ (think Belly sweep w/ 2 dive fakes). Will probably experiment w/ it next year.

The best part about double dive is it can literally work in any offense & from pretty much any formation. Really surprised itís not a staple in just about every offense. I think people donít think same side fakes are as deceptive. But I actually think itís more deceptive because everyone is looming for reverses, boots, & counters.
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Re: Running power T this year
« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2019, 08:15:11 PM »
http://www.hudl.com/v/2AMndS Dive keep

https://www.hudl.com/video/2/91668/5b973284b53e8409ecc32e55 Double Dive w/ OSV

https://www.hudl.com/video/2/91668/5b973284b53e8409ecc32e55 OSV

We could basically just march down the field w/ these 3 plays from Power T. Was great for MPR too. The left side of our line is MPR on most of these plays. We ran the same 3 the other way.
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Re: Running power T this year
« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2019, 08:31:45 PM »
The best part about double dive is it can literally work in any offense & from pretty much any formation. Really surprised itís not a staple in just about every offense. I think people donít think same side fakes are as deceptive. But I actually think itís more deceptive because everyone is looming for reverses, boots, & counters.

For sure. IMO I think that the double dive is just another way to hit the off tackle hole. 

Most teams that run it are trying to get the ball to the 2nd man.  The dive and the keep plays are used to keep the defense honest. 
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Re: Running power T this year
« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2019, 10:27:58 PM »
So I just got hired as a high school head coach.  After searching everything I have decided I want to switch to the Power T.  Our school was a power run team for years but the old head coach decided to move away from it.  The kids know how to run the power but he wasnt happy with it.  I want to go back to these roots and having run a version of the T in the past I decided to make the switch.  This thread helped me out a lot in knowing that it is okay to switch things up and knowing the basics.

Does anyone have any other small details that haven't been mentioned yet?