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Offline MHcoach

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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2015, 06:39:59 PM »
Chase

Where In Marietta, I have contact with a few HS coaches there?

Joe
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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2015, 07:21:33 PM »
Chase

Where In Marietta, I have contact with a few HS coaches there?

Joe

Hey Joe,
              I'm going to be in East Cobb going to Joseph Wheeler high school

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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2015, 11:37:31 PM »
Chase

Good Luck! I know they have already started practice.

Joe
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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2015, 12:50:24 AM »
Tons of things happening North of Atlanta!  Football is King!  I suggest walking into the Off Workouts. Even more I suggest sending an Email to the Header telling him you are moving into the area and asking when Work Outs are!

Get out ahead of yourself!  Proactive!   

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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2015, 12:54:18 AM »
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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2015, 08:00:02 AM »
you really have to play if you want to coach.  the reason being, we all are guilty of thinking what we are asking the kids to do is easy.  it's not easy.  you need to go through that process yourself to appreciate it for the sake of your future players.  also, players can sense if you have no idea what you are talking about.  you really need to play.

that said, you don't have to be great or even good.  I myself was a middling player, and only that good because I wanted to play so badly.  I actually think it helps me in the teaching phases of coaching that I wasn't really gifted.  I NEEDED to be technically correct to win my battles on the football field.  everyone I played was bigger/faster.  my footwork and target points had to be correct, and I had to be able to anticipate plays. 

so play my friend.  even if you just end up being a scout teamer, play.  find ways to compete.  and remember them.

also, becoming a coach is a LONG humbling process.  you will put in a lot of time doing stuff that doesn't directly relate to coaching.  whatever you do, do it well.  that is the way to get noticed(even if you don't think they do).  put in your time. 

I envy you though.  you are young and know what you want.  chase it, kid.  don't stop chasing it.  that's how you get there.
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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2015, 08:33:21 AM »
you really have to play if you want to coach.
Hogwash. One of the most successful coaches on here did not play. Todd Haley of the NFL never played. Most coaches played but it is no way a prerequisite. Not playing would put you behind the learning curve but as long as you are willing to put in the time it can be done. Also, look at the pretty high percentage of NFL and college coaches who never played at the level they are coaching or even beyond hs.

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« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2015, 08:40:49 AM »
You have to play but you don't have to be great.

What a coincidence!
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« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2015, 11:46:28 AM »
THE LITTLE SLOW UNTALENTED GUY who tried out but got cut, or was just used as a tackling dummy...if this "player" has a passion for the game, love of the sport, for whatever reason, he will learn more about the game up n beyond size speed and strength, he will learn and study those little things like technique, Xs n Os, maybe because he was originally he was trying to find a way of making himself a viable player
But now he has something to bring to a coaching table.

I know a couple of the "little smart kids" I played with went on to coach HC at HS and asst coach at the college level, they were 5th quarter kids
5 4' 125lbs each

those that cant...teach/coach

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« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2015, 12:02:30 PM »
I think knowing what the inside of a helmet smells like during the 4th quarter helps...but its not imperative.

I believe Coach Potter never played and I'd be his Assistant Dummy Holder anytime anywhere for any reason.
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« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2015, 12:24:57 PM »
I think knowing what the inside of a helmet smells like during the 4th quarter helps...

I'm guessing that can be taken care of during the first game you coach.
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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2015, 12:34:09 PM »
Hogwash. One of the most successful coaches on here did not play. Todd Haley of the NFL never played. Most coaches played but it is no way a prerequisite. Not playing would put you behind the learning curve but as long as you are willing to put in the time it can be done. Also, look at the pretty high percentage of NFL and college coaches who never played at the level they are coaching or even beyond hs.

While having played certainly helps a bit, I'll take this a step further to say its those former players who struggled the most that make better coaches.  Why?  Because, like the majority of others, they had to bust their arses to be decent players.  Whereas the kids with natural abilities dont think most things are hard.  They tend to bring a "This is easy" attitude to caoching and quickly find that they cant teach it because they cant explain the why or how, they just know they did it.

I agree that playing is not a manditory prerequisite to being a coach.  The ability to teach is right up there and perhaps even more important!! 

:)
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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2015, 12:58:49 PM »
While having played certainly helps a bit, I'll take this a step further to say its those former players who struggled the most that make better coaches.  Why?  Because, like the majority of others, they had to bust their arses to be decent players.  Whereas the kids with natural abilities dont think most things are hard.  They tend to bring a "This is easy" attitude to caoching and quickly find that they cant teach it because they cant explain the why or how, they just know they did it.

I agree that playing is not a manditory prerequisite to being a coach.  The ability to teach is right up there and perhaps even more important!! 

:)

samething I said...yours just sounds better / more edumecated

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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2015, 04:15:33 PM »
you really have to play if you want to coach.

--You do?  I wish someone would have told me that 18 years ago.

the reason being, we all are guilty of thinking what we are asking the kids to do is easy.

--Uh...no.  Not by a long shot.  There's nothing about what my players do that's easy.  As a matter of fact, if anyone makes it harder and more difficult than I do (Jack Gregory excluded), then I want to know who it is, because I'm stealing it.

you need to go through that process yourself to appreciate it for the sake of your future players.

--I don't have to bear crawl backwards for 240 yards to appreciate its difficulty.  I don't have to do Jack's Enduro drill for 30 minutes to appreciate the commitment that a player makes to complete the drill.

also, players can sense if you have no idea what you are talking about.  you really need to play.

--Players know exactly what I'm talking about.  It's probably my best attribute as a coach; the ability to communicate.

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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2015, 04:18:24 PM »
You do?  Dang it!

--Dave

Thats it Dave, hang up the Whistle!!    :P
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