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Offline chasemac211

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First Post! Feedback wanted!
« on: June 09, 2015, 09:59:46 PM »
Hello members of dumcoach,

 My name is Chase and I'm a 14 year old kid who aspires to be a college football coach. I know all the basics of football but basics won't cut it as a coach. Does anybody know of any sites or youtube videos where I can learn advanced football strategy, coverages, schemes, etc.


               Thanks!

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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2015, 10:29:51 PM »
glazierclinics.com is full of stuff but you have to pay (like most football sites). Fishduck.com has a ton of oregons scheme. You need to get gus malzahns book "hurry up no-huddle offense" it is great at explaining the reasons behind offensive playcalling and strategy. Cheap buy from amazon or iBooks. Xandolabs.com has some very detailed in depth studies of everything. Do a ton of googling and when u read about a concept that you don't know much about just google that. And so on. Find a team that fits your style and research their coordinators and learn the history of why they run thŗt offense or defense. What other teams run thd same stuff but what do they do different. It is a never ending rabbit hole!

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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2015, 10:42:50 PM »
Thanks for the advice it is really appreciated! Best of luck to you and your team for this upcoming season

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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2015, 11:18:07 PM »
X&O labs.

There are alot of coaches that know offensive and defensive schemes........but very few that can "teach" them.   

My point is being a great teacher needs to be your most important attribute.
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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2015, 08:25:54 AM »
Go to college and become a grad assistant for the coaching staff. That is a few years away for you but is often a fast track to learning and getting to know the right people. For now, read about it as much as you can and see if you can help out a local hs staff if you aren't playing football. See if you can voluteer for a youth program. Learning how to fit and repair equipment will help you get a foot in the door as well.
Also, and this is very important, you only think you know all the basics. I used to think I knew alot and then I learned that I knew nothing. A decade of coaching and I still feel the same way. As you peel back the onion you realize that the layers are endless. One could write a book just on the first 2 steps of an offensive lineman. Literally. That is basic stuff. Go into it with an attitude that you don't know anything about the game. Realize that you can learn something from a youth coach with 1 year of expreience as well as Bill Parcell's or Bill Walsh. Oh, and books by those 2 guys are highly recommended. Be humble but aggressive with your learning approach
As far as a reading list be careful. Jumping into advanced scheme will blow your mind at first. What you consider advanced and what others consider advanced are 2 completely different things. You have years to learn advanced scheme. Most hs coaches don't truly understand advanced scheme. I would stay away from scheme based books for now and stay with books written by coaches about coaching and books about fundamental skills. We could give you a list of books about advanced scheme that would blow your mind(heck, they blow my mind and I have a decent amount of experience and am exposed to very knowledgeable hs coaches on a daily basis) but that won't help you much.
Remeber coaching football is not about scheme. It never has been and it never will be. Coaching fundamental skills at a high level is what makes a good coach. Running a simple pass concept like Smash is worthless if the qb reads, steps, throwing technique, and the wrs reads and route running aren't correct. Then don't forget pass pro or the qb is on his back. Same thing with running a basic power play or inside zone. The fundies have to be right for the play to work.
Learing as much as you can about coaching the oline will do wonders for you. Good oline coaches at every level are hard to find. Plus, you really start to get a quick understanding of the offensive and defensive game from the trenches. Many people have no desire to coach the oline. Once you dive into it the line becomes really interesting.

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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2015, 09:22:02 AM »
Go to college and become a grad assistant for the coaching staff. That is a few years away for you but is often a fast track to learning and getting to know the right people. For now, read about it as much as you can and see if you can help out a local hs staff if you aren't playing football. See if you can voluteer for a youth program. Learning how to fit and repair equipment will help you get a foot in the door as well.
Also, and this is very important, you only think you know all the basics. I used to think I knew alot and then I learned that I knew nothing. A decade of coaching and I still feel the same way. As you peel back the onion you realize that the layers are endless. One could write a book just on the first 2 steps of an offensive lineman. Literally. That is basic stuff. Go into it with an attitude that you don't know anything about the game. Realize that you can learn something from a youth coach with 1 year of expreience as well as Bill Parcell's or Bill Walsh. Oh, and books by those 2 guys are highly recommended. Be humble but aggressive with your learning approach
As far as a reading list be careful. Jumping into advanced scheme will blow your mind at first. What you consider advanced and what others consider advanced are 2 completely different things. You have years to learn advanced scheme. Most hs coaches don't truly understand advanced scheme. I would stay away from scheme based books for now and stay with books written by coaches about coaching and books about fundamental skills. We could give you a list of books about advanced scheme that would blow your mind(heck, they blow my mind and I have a decent amount of experience and am exposed to very knowledgeable hs coaches on a daily basis) but that won't help you much.
Remeber coaching football is not about scheme. It never has been and it never will be. Coaching fundamental skills at a high level is what makes a good coach. Running a simple pass concept like Smash is worthless if the qb reads, steps, throwing technique, and the wrs reads and route running aren't correct. Then don't forget pass pro or the qb is on his back. Same thing with running a basic power play or inside zone. The fundies have to be right for the play to work.
Learing as much as you can about coaching the oline will do wonders for you. Good oline coaches at every level are hard to find. Plus, you really start to get a quick understanding of the offensive and defensive game from the trenches. Many people have no desire to coach the oline. Once you dive into it the line becomes really interesting.

If I were just starting out, I would re-read this as many times as possible.

--Dave
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"I want to show any young man that he is far tougher than he thinks, that he can accomplish more than what he dreamed and that his work ethic will take him wherever he wants to go."

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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2015, 09:50:03 AM »
Hello members of dumcoach,

 My name is Chase and I'm a 14 year old kid who aspires to be a college football coach. I know all the basics of football but basics won't cut it as a coach. Does anybody know of any sites or youtube videos where I can learn advanced football strategy, coverages, schemes, etc.


               Thanks!

Chase

Will you be playing for your HS? If so tell your coaches what your plans are and become their Gopher until you graduate. That would be an excellent start....along with what the others have suggested although Im not sure what you can do at the youth level since everyone must submit to a background check....and I do believe you must be 18 for that too happen.

Then when you get to College become a General Assistant and hopefully continue to play even if you are the last man on the depth chart. 

Its a huge commitment. Be ready to live a very nomadic life for a while after you graduate from College.

Remember this....its not necessarily what you know....its really does matter who you know. Never let contact info slip past you whether its at a Clinic or on the phone or some AC on a Staff that you meet. Everyone matters so shake a lot of hands! You never know who or where or what or why or how a particular person might become the most important person in your life someday. It really is a small World.
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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2015, 09:53:36 AM »
Hello members of dumcoach,

 My name is Chase and I'm a 14 year old kid who aspires to be a college football coach. I know all the basics of football but basics won't cut it as a coach. Does anybody know of any sites or youtube videos where I can learn advanced football strategy, coverages, schemes, etc.


               Thanks!

Are you playing in High School?  I suggest that if you want to coach at least try out for the team.  If you dont make the team at least you can see it from a Player perspective.  Even then if you dont make the team volunteer to tape games, learn the game from the sideline and above.  Be everpresent with the Coaching Staff ask them what you can do to help.  However, it all starts with the words "Hi I'm ....., I'd like to learn how to play and coach football."   Just like players, being a good coach is about time and effort. 
Not MPP... ONE TASK!  Teach them!  :)

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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2015, 10:39:01 AM »
We take students, 16+, to help our youth programs.  It counts as volunteering and the kids realize that they don't know as much as they thought.

In addition to some huge points mentioned already (it is not schemes, formations, and such - it is technique and fundamentals that are key), I would make sure that you understand one thing that is very applicable to life and not just football.  You don't start at the top, you don't even start in the middle.  You start at the bottom and you learn.  Learn everything that you can and understand all of the details that go into making a team (or program) successful. 

I see lots of kids getting out of college and they can't figure out why they can't get a job.  For many of them, it is that they are expecting to be a manager, VP or some high up position.  It does not work that way.  While your goal might be to be a college coach, you first need to figure out how you get that first unpaid assistant job.

Good luck!

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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2015, 10:54:05 AM »
Hello members of dumcoach,

 My name is Chase and I'm a 14 year old kid who aspires to be a college football coach. I know all the basics of football but basics won't cut it as a coach. Does anybody know of any sites or youtube videos where I can learn advanced football strategy, coverages, schemes, etc.


               Thanks!

go to local youth league be an asst coach to somebody that knows what they are doing...after you learn basics, go to local HS and asst there  see what they need as far as help...it might be holding a board up for signals or statician. Dont matter get in someway and absorb whats going on around you.....or you could just join the football team your 14 right??

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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2015, 12:00:59 PM »
Thanks for the advice everybody. I will try out for the football team at my high school team and if I don't make the team I will relentlessly try to somehow get on the sidelines as a waterboy or anything possible. I feel like to not overwhelm myself I should just kinda start fresh at the beginning of football knowledge and learn as much as I can.

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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2015, 01:27:01 PM »
Thanks for the advice everybody. I will try out for the football team at my high school team and if I don't make the team I will relentlessly try to somehow get on the sidelines as a waterboy or anything possible. I feel like to not overwhelm myself I should just kinda start fresh at the beginning of football knowledge and learn as much as I can.

Chase, I noticed that you have a Jaguars helmet as your profile picture. As a Jacksonville fan myself (yes, there are a few of us out here) I'm going to hit you up with some Gus Bradley knowledge that echoes what Coach Rob pointed out above;

STAY

HUMBLE

As a coach, there cannot be any task beneath you and no player that is not worth your time. I have nowhere near the experience level of a lot of coaches on here, but I will tell you that I really do learn something new about football every time I coach. Keep open to that and keep a keen eye on your humility. It will take you a long, long way.
Beware the fury of a patient man.

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« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2015, 04:31:37 PM »
hay kid as a side note you may say what town or area your in and find a coach on this site that's close by and willing to take on a youngster. Dont give any personal info of course, just an area so coaches will know if they are close enough to you.

If you find one here that says "sure come on out" fine... BUT there's a catch! .....kid+adult+internet+meeting can become an issue, you understand, Im sure. 14 Your a minor, you might/you should have mom or dad contact any coach prior to making a meeting here first and go from there...if you were my son Id have to go down to the practice field and meet coach my self, I would not allow my boys to communicate with some random guy on internet then arrange a meeting place...no way! Id want to go down and see the program myself and shake hands personally.

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Re: First Post! Feedback wanted!
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2015, 05:35:06 PM »
hay kid as a side note you may say what town or area your in and find a coach on this site that's close by and willing to take on a youngster. Dont give any personal info of course, just an area so coaches will know if they are close enough to you.

If you find one here that says "sure come on out" fine... BUT there's a catch! .....kid+adult+internet+meeting can become an issue, you understand, Im sure. 14 Your a minor, you might/you should have mom or dad contact any coach prior to making a meeting here first and go from there...if you were my son Id have to go down to the practice field and meet coach my self, I would not allow my boys to communicate with some random guy on internet then arrange a meeting place...no way! Id want to go down and see the program myself and shake hands personally.

Thanks for the idea coach! I currently live in Jacksonville, FL but next month I am moving to Marietta, GA. so if there is anyone in the Marietta area please let me know!

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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2015, 05:45:46 PM »
Thanks for the idea coach! I currently live in Jacksonville, FL but next month I am moving to Marietta, GA. so if there is anyone in the Marietta area please let me know!

Good luck son

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