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Re: Lurker making the leap
« Reply #45 on: December 23, 2016, 10:00:24 AM »
We give our players each iPads with the playbook in it. 






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Re: Lurker making the leap
« Reply #46 on: December 23, 2016, 10:03:03 AM »
One caveat that IMO is more of an exception proves the rule thing -

I have, on 2 or 3 occasions, prepared a specific playbook for a specific player to help him learn a new position quickly. Now, those were situations where the kid agreed/asked for it, and I knew they'd read it, and it worked. It was a very nice feeling to go over something that the kid hadn't seen in practice yet and have him know what it was and execute immediately.

But again - those were unique situations and not the rule.  I did playbooks early on and found the same thing as most on here - nobody read them. Now I still do them, but I do them as an exercise for myself to make sure I have thought everything through, and for the other coaches.  Of course, they don't read them either...

On a separate but similar note - one thing Potter and I both mentioned is the danger of coaching with the incorrect expectation that the kids have read the playbook.  I am finding that to be the case with HUDL.  I will exhaustively break down and notate HUDL for the kids, and then during the week I end up coaching with the assumption I have gone over those things with the players.  It's not necessarily a conscious thing; I'll just forget to go over something because in my head I already did...but it was on HUDL, which maybe half the kids actually watch. I have to get better with that.

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Re: Lurker making the leap
« Reply #47 on: December 23, 2016, 11:24:35 AM »
J

That is a learned behavior. When I was a young HC, I went against the advice of my mentors I worked tireless to draw a playbook by hand(there was no PC's back then). I handed them out to my team. Half never looked at them, some wound up in my opponents hands, the whole process was a waste of time. I learned from the experience & my mentors reminded me that "playbooks are for coaches".

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Ya, I haven't used em in some time, just cuz I kind of thought it was a waste of time. Just didn't realize I was in the majority on this. We do have some of it up on Hudl tho.
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Re: Lurker making the leap
« Reply #49 on: December 23, 2016, 12:14:24 PM »
parents don't give a fck! don't kid yourself. Otherwise they would be coaching.
I disagree with you. Most parents do care. Especially the ones who actually stay to watch their kids practice.

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Re: Lurker making the leap
« Reply #50 on: December 23, 2016, 01:02:55 PM »
I still do them, but I do them as an exercise for myself to make sure I have thought everything through

--Yes, exactly.  And I do that a lot.  Because things change; plays change and how I teach them.

one thing Potter and I both mentioned is the danger of coaching with the incorrect expectation that the kids have read the playbook.

--Yes, we both mentioned it, didn't we?   ;)

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Re: Lurker making the leap
« Reply #51 on: December 23, 2016, 02:05:28 PM »
I disagree with you. Most parents do care. Especially the ones who actually stay to watch their kids practice.
Dims, I know parents care, but not about plays. Again, do not kid yourself. You are amongst a very rare breed.
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Re: Lurker making the leap
« Reply #52 on: December 23, 2016, 03:18:28 PM »
I was talking about giving parents the practice plan, not a playbook.
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Re: Lurker making the leap
« Reply #53 on: December 23, 2016, 03:33:44 PM »
I was talking about giving parents the practice plan, not a playbook.
They don't care about the practice plan. I am not saying they wont have some interest, but ultimately is little Johnny having fun, learning something, getting better is all most parents care about. Yes we all have the exception to the rule.
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Re: Lurker making the leap
« Reply #54 on: December 23, 2016, 04:17:29 PM »
Welcome!  My first rule of advise is stay away from the thread title "Just Voted (Political Thread)"  :)

As for the playbooks, its very important that you are mindful and efficient with your time.  You will spend time on making that playbook, and there is a fairly low ROI for it. 

Secondly, you have to be flexible with your playbook, you cant say I will have these 20 plays in by game 1 come hell or high water, if the team is not catching on, be ready to adjust.

I have given out playbooks before, I no longer do. 

Don't get so caught up scheme.  The best coaches are the guys who know how to coach and teach kids.  You do not need to know the difference between an over and under front to be a good coach.  Some guys like to talk a big game about X's and O's, meanwhile they cant teach a kid how to Velcro his shoes. 

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Re: Lurker making the leap
« Reply #55 on: December 27, 2016, 03:18:18 PM »
great thread and you've got some of the best in the business replying to you with amazing advice.  I've said it many times before and I'll say it again here (along with the gentleman who said it earlier) -- Go to WinningYouthFootball.com and buy a copy of Cisar's book.  I don't care if you want to run the single wing or you don't want to run it...the other information in the book is worth the admission price.  I sincerely believe that this book should be REQUIRED reading for any first year coach, assistant or header.

The only other piece of advice I can give you is enjoy this journey because there really is no destination.  You will win and you will lose.  You will make some mistakes and you'll also do some awesome stuff...all in all, you will learn...as will the kids that you coach and that's what it's all about.  Learning, advancing, improving and trying to have some fun along the way.

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Re: Lurker making the leap
« Reply #56 on: December 27, 2016, 10:59:56 PM »
I suggest a Copy of "The Single Six" and "Coaching Football 101" by Don Schnake to anyone interested in Coaching at the Youth Level. 

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"The Simple Six" is the correct title.
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Re: Lurker making the leap
« Reply #57 on: December 29, 2016, 09:08:21 PM »
I suggest a Copy of "The Single Six" and "Coaching Football 101" by Don Schnake to anyone interested in Coaching at the Youth Level. 

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in my league, simple one would be a better title.
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Re: Lurker making the leap
« Reply #58 on: January 04, 2017, 02:25:56 PM »
We give our players each iPads with the playbook in it. 






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Loaned my iPad to a player who didn't have a computer at home so he could watch HUDL. Care to guess how many minutes of HUDL that kid watched over the entire season?
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Re: Lurker making the leap
« Reply #59 on: January 04, 2017, 02:30:50 PM »
BTW, it took me 3 seasons of distributing progressively impressive playbooks to the players before I gave up.

Also, out hitting your opponent will solve 99% of your problems on the field.
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