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Offline CoachDP

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Re: 2018 Enumclaw Jr. Hornets (Mighty Mites)
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2018, 07:05:54 PM »
I was told by a few coaches that he was complaining about some of the things I called this year but it is what it is.

--The ONLY coach who will call a game exactly like you, is you.  Besides, offensive success is less about "calls" and more about "execution."  If your offense successfully executes the play, it doesn't matter what the call was.  And the majority of the time, a lack of execution has far more to do with your offense not executing, as opposed to what their defense was doing.

We ran offense for about half the practice most days. We worked on techniques (snaps, handoffs, etc).

--What's "half the practice?"  30 minutes, 45 minutes, an hour?

Personnel wise, he says who he wants and where he wants them and I just have to make it work. Iíve already decided that Iím going to have the say in that department next season.

--If you're not on the same page, you're really going to be handcuffed.  Even though you had no say, did you agree with personnel decisions?

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Re: 2018 Enumclaw Jr. Hornets (Mighty Mites)
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2018, 07:10:00 PM »
You would be correct. They would crash their ends and outside linebackers and the play was virtually over.

--You have 2 options here:  either learn to block it, or run inside of it.

Go where the play is designed unless itís all clogged up and you can cut it back.

--And you're complaining that your Backs didn't read blocks?  Evidently, they didn't have to read blocks because they were allowed to go where the play wasn't designed.

Itís my second year of coaching and we did really well my first year and we took a huge step back this season. We faced a lot of the same coaches and kids so Iím sure they were ready for us.

--If they're ready for you, does that mean you'll need to change your plays every year?

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Re: 2018 Enumclaw Jr. Hornets (Mighty Mites)
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2018, 07:11:03 PM »


We would run about and hour of offense a day. Sometimes less and sometimes more. I was okay will about 95% of the players he wanted on offense.

We have a very talented backfield and I want to make running easier for them by spreading the field and giving us more favorable matchups. Problem is that it will only work if we can complete passes and make them respect the pass. Thatís the type of offense I want to run.

I know Iím a bit all over the place but I feel running out of shotgun, whether it be jet/fly or normal gun, would be best for us.

ó Chris

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Re: 2018 Enumclaw Jr. Hornets (Mighty Mites)
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2018, 07:13:34 PM »


I shouldnít have to change the plays every year. All we need to do is execute them and it wonít matter.

Our rule with the RBís was to hit the hole no matter what and after a yard or so, if it was there, they could cut back. Obviously I need to throw that in the trash and tell them to hit the hole no matter what.

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Re: 2018 Enumclaw Jr. Hornets (Mighty Mites)
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2018, 07:22:52 PM »
Chris, this troubles me:

You said:

"We tried to hit them up the middle but our backs werenít reading the blocks correctly or would instantly go the other way."

You also said:

"Go where the play is designed unless itís all clogged up and you can cut it back."

You can't say "Go where the play is designed unless itís all clogged up and you can cut it back" and then complain "our backs werenít reading the blocks correctly or would instantly go the other way." 

This is a common problem in coaching.  The ball-carrier runs a Sweep where there's no room and is yelled at for not "cutting it up."  Then when the ball-carrier feels like he's not going to be able to get the corner, he cuts it up and the coach yells, "What are you doing?  It's a Sweep!"  And regardless of what they run, if it's a good gain, coaches praise them, and when it's a poor gain, the ball-carrier gets yelled at.  And it's all after the fact, and result-based.

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Re: 2018 Enumclaw Jr. Hornets (Mighty Mites)
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2018, 07:26:02 PM »
I shouldnít have to change the plays every year. All we need to do is execute them and it wonít matter.

--True.

Our rule with the RBís was to hit the hole no matter what and after a yard or so, if it was there, they could cut back. Obviously I need to throw that in the trash and tell them to hit the hole no matter what.

--Not necessarily.  It depends on the kind of scheme you are running.  We don't look for holes or gaps, but we're Double Wing.  In a Zone Scheme, you can and should look for holes/gaps/seams.  The blocking scheme dictates that.  The blocking rules dictate that.  What blocking scheme did you use this year?

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Re: 2018 Enumclaw Jr. Hornets (Mighty Mites)
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2018, 07:34:18 PM »
Chris, this troubles me:

You said:

"We tried to hit them up the middle but our backs werenít reading the blocks correctly or would instantly go the other way."

You also said:

"Go where the play is designed unless itís all clogged up and you can cut it back."

You can't say "Go where the play is designed unless itís all clogged up and you can cut it back" and then complain "our backs werenít reading the blocks correctly or would instantly go the other way." 

This is a common problem in coaching.  The ball-carrier runs a Sweep where there's no room and is yelled at for not "cutting it up."  Then when the ball-carrier feels like he's not going to be able to get the corner, he cuts it up and the coach yells, "What are you doing?  It's a Sweep!"  And regardless of what they run, if it's a good gain, coaches praise them, and when it's a poor gain, the ball-carrier gets yelled at.  And it's all after the fact, and result-based.

--Dave

I should clarify my previous comments. I see the concern you are expressing. It was my fault for not explaining what was happening correctly.

For example, if the play was designed to go four hole, sometimes the RB would take the hand off and immediately bounce it outside or cut back to odd side of the formation.

I always do my best to praise them no matter what happens. If they make a mistake, I tell them to shake it off and move on to the next play.

ó Chris

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Re: 2018 Enumclaw Jr. Hornets (Mighty Mites)
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2018, 07:34:32 PM »
We have a very talented backfield and I want to make running easier for them by spreading the field and giving us more favorable matchups.

--Running is very simple for us and we run the ball well.  And we did this without spreading the field.  What "favorable matchups" are you're looking for?

Problem is that it will only work if we can complete passes and make them respect the pass.

--We threw 6 touchdown passes in 7 games.  NO ONE respected our passing game.  Which is why our passing game worked.  What kind of successful passing game do you think you will install for your age group?  Other concerns: the shotgun snap at this age group can be problematic.  Blocking on an island can be a challenge.  Not saying this can't be done, or that you can't do it, but these are common issues and problems for MOST of the youth teams I see.  It's only overcome through better athletes and/or better coaching.  I can't rely on getting the athletes...

I know Iím a bit all over the place

--Yes, you are. ;)

but I feel running out of shotgun, whether it be jet/fly or normal gun, would be best for us.

--There's plenty of guys here who can help, but if you weren't successful this year it probably wasn't scheme (or plays).  Fundamentals will trump scheme at this age group every time.

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« Last Edit: November 19, 2018, 09:47:54 PM by CoachDP »
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Re: 2018 Enumclaw Jr. Hornets (Mighty Mites)
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2018, 07:50:11 PM »


At this exact moment, I canít answer that question regarding what matchups I want.

I know next year we are going to teach fundamentals for about two weeks straight and then slowly start adding the playbook.

ó Chris

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Re: 2018 Enumclaw Jr. Hornets (Mighty Mites)
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2018, 08:03:46 PM »
Chris,

Well Coach DP kinda beat me to it already, but I was just about to mention that I hadn't heard you talk at all about your blocking scheme. IMO, that's fundamental to any offense. Your blocking scheme should reflect your tactical philosophy (the X and O part of moving the ball) and style of play (how you balance physicality, aggression, and finesse).

On another note, at the mitey-mite level, there's no reason for  a defense to honor your "spread them out to gain favorable matchups" philosophy unless you have demonstrated the ability to consistently complete passes. Maybe you have that - I don't know. MOst of the time, when a mitey-mite team does that, it's all about stopping jetsweep.

Just my $.02.


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Re: 2018 Enumclaw Jr. Hornets (Mighty Mites)
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2018, 08:29:53 PM »
I hadn't heard you talk at all about your blocking scheme.

Still waiting on that...

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Re: 2018 Enumclaw Jr. Hornets (Mighty Mites)
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2018, 08:52:17 PM »
As of right now, we use straight up man blocking. We havenít been able to install the zone blocking mainly because I havenít found time to review it so I can understand it in order to teach it.

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« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2018, 09:29:01 PM »
we use straight up man blocking. We havenít been able to install the zone blocking mainly because I havenít found time to review it so I can understand it in order to teach it.

Chris, I appreciate the honesty.  But really, "straight up man blocking" doesn't work with anything, as a primary blocking approach.  And if your team was successful the year before, I'll argue that it was successful despite your blocking "scheme."  Use a real blocking scheme, with a real offense.  Even if your offense isn't a scheme, you've got to have some sort of blocking rules.  Otherwise, your players don't know who to block, they are easily confused by defenses and I could draw something up on game day that you couldn't defend.  Base blocking works when you are bigger & better than your opponents.  Or, you are simply great at teaching it. 

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Re: 2018 Enumclaw Jr. Hornets (Mighty Mites)
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2018, 10:02:20 PM »
B O B or Man Blocking works great IF IF IF  Your kids understand who and how.  We use holes RB's are told One Cut!  Even without Zone Blocking you can still teach them to read a Line Backer.


 
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« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2018, 10:02:47 PM »
I'm looking to run out of the shotgun this season as well as running some jet/fly plays. Anyone have any suggestions that I can take into next year?

So I'd suggest a scheme that implements these plays.  Teach a complementary blocking scheme.  Pay attention to the snap.  Choosing a Center is critical, especially in this offense; it's either too slow or not accurate.  Know that to run from a Spread with splits, you'll also have to know how wide to gap your splits, as well as how close/far to get them to the LOS.  The wider the gap, the tougher the pull.  And don't expect defenses to cooperate by spreading them out.  My defense won't.  So you won't have those gaps you're looking for.

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