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2018 Game 1 - 7U
« on: August 27, 2018, 09:47:01 AM »
Lost 14-6 to a team we should have beaten by 3 TD's.  Gave up a 98 yard TD run and had 3 TD's called back for holding calls, two legit, one garbage (The defender tackled our blocker and we got a holding call).  We dominated time of possession.  They ran 6 offensive plays the entire game.  1 -50y TD run, 1- 98y TD run, 1 fumble, which we recovered, and 2 plays (1 for a short gain, 1 for a decent gain and 1 for a loss). 

We worked on contain all week and then failed to contain.  We simply too often did not do our job. Our mental effort and physical effort was poor - blockers went the wrong way, we didn't maintain blocks, we were mediocre at carrying out fakes, our wedge was pitiful, ball security was lacking - we fumbled on the last drive when trying to tie the game, on two of the long runs we had players in place to make the tackles, one for a safety, and we were either too high or took a poor angle, etc.... In essence we did a poor job coaching them up.

We have a bye week this weekend.  We have several practices to get better.  The good news is that we lost by one score to a decent team and we played about as poorly as I think we can play.  We'll get better and be a tough team to handle come playoff time.

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Re: 2018 Game 1 - 7U
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2018, 09:51:15 AM »
Sounds like first world problems to me, LOL!

I went up to the mountains to scout 2 upcoming opponents this weekend. Both defenses looked like a kickoff formation. No fewer than 3 "contain" guys on each side. Yet, both teams were able to bust a several sweeps/reverses for long gains. I'm sure they worked on contain all week as well. 7U is an entirely different animal. The question is how fast can we, as coaches adapt to their mindset and abilities.
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Re: 2018 Game 1 - 7U
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2018, 10:30:53 AM »
The question is how fast can we, as coaches adapt to their mindset and abilities.

^ This ^

Football is blocking and tackling.  And while that's true, if you don't understand or recognize some fundamental differences between the age groups, then you are in for a more difficult challenge.  And while I recognize certain differences, my demands of them regarding effort, discipline, toughness and aggression are pretty much the same.

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Re: 2018 Game 1 - 7U
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2018, 10:37:00 AM »
I attended a jamboree on Saturday, watching four of our upcoming youth opponents: one team with no talent and no coaching; one team with average talent and no coaching, one team with good talent and no coaching and one team with talent and good coaching.  At one point, the team with average talent/no coaching was getting smoked by the team with good talent and good coaching.  The header of the average talent team started fussing at his players about what they weren't doing:  "Y'all aren't doing (this).  Y'all aren't doing (that)"  (We say "y'all" a lot here.)  At one point he said, "Y'all aren't having fun!" as if it were some sort of command or fundamental.  I was thinking, "If I were playing for y'all, I wouldn't be having fun, either."  What planet are these guys from?

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Re: 2018 Game 1 - 7U
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2018, 11:46:37 AM »
What planet are these guys from?

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Probably regular average non-coaching earthlings.  Definitely not from that planet Clark Kent and Dave Potter come from.  ;)
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Re: 2018 Game 1 - 7U
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2018, 04:58:00 PM »
Probably regular average non-coaching earthlings.

My point is, the players are not only getting whipped on the field, but from their own sideline, as well.  And the coach actually wonders why his players aren’t having fun.  You shouldn’t have to be Superman, Einstein or the Amazing Kreskin to figure out why.

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Re: 2018 Game 1 - 7U
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2018, 08:17:19 PM »
My point is, the players are not only getting whipped on the field, but from their own sideline, as well.  And the coach actually wonders why his players aren’t having fun.  You shouldn’t have to be Superman, Einstein or the Amazing Kreskin to figure out why.

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I understood your point.  I agree with your point.  Every youth coach who has been around more than a couple of years has seen coaches like that come and go. 

I was making a joke.  It was funny to me at the time I wrote the reply.  Sorry that it didn't go over that way.  I am just now realizing how tightly wound you are.  I will avoid making any replies to your posts that are off topic or not serious.

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Re: 2018 Game 1 - 7U
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2018, 11:07:48 AM »
I was making a joke.

I get that Nathan.  I'm just saying that even an "average guy" should be able to realize why their players aren't having fun when they're getting whipped on the field and yelled at from their sideline.  I would argue that they're not an "average guy," but a "below-average" guy.  ;)

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Re: 2018 Game 1 - 7U
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2018, 12:06:02 PM »
I get that Nathan.  I'm just saying that even an "average guy" should be able to realize why their players aren't having fun when they're getting whipped on the field and yelled at from their sideline.  I would argue that they're not an "average guy," but a "below-average" guy.  ;)

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When I was a youth league president, it was hard to get and keep good coaches.  We probably averaged about 1 out of 3 new coaches returning for a second season.  We never had enough good coaches to go around.  We either placed new coaches with teams, offered help and support and hoped for the best or we would have to close up shop and not have football at all.

A couple times I coached the team no one else would and suffered through pure misery.  The misery always comes from the parents.  One year I coached a 7/8 year old team that went through 3 coaches the year before.  3 of my players moms got banned from the stadium on game days for cussing, fighting and other immature behavior so they watched from an adjacent parking lot and yelled at their kids to not listen to me and do whatever they wanted.  I was stubborn enough that they couldn't run me off.  We went 0-7 but we finished the year and not one kid quit. 

Many times I placed a coach with a team because he was the only person who would do it.  I offered mentorship and tried to help support all my new coaches knowing that some where in over their head.  Very often they didn't want to listen and wanted to do things their own way.  Then when reality slapped them in the face on game day, many lashed out at their kids the same way you described seeing.  I have had to replace a coach mid season.  It's not fun for anyone, especially the players.

Those "below average guys" are very common in youth football.  I wish every coach cared as much about it as you do, Dave, but you are the exception.  Those guys are common.

 
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Re: 2018 Game 1 - 7U
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2018, 12:41:43 PM »
Last night we worked contain with our DE's and CB's with our LB's filling and scraping from inside.  I was absolutely incredulous.  After talking, walking, demonstrating and having them demonstrate EXACTLY what they did wrong on Saturday - jumping inside of blocks, we went live in the drill and they did the same thing again, and again, and again, and again.  We seriously had to rep it 10-12 times for them to "start" to execute it on a fairly regular basis. 

The drill was a good one, and it's one we are going to keep running.  It was frustrating for everyone at first but once they started understanding and executing it got to be fun for everyone.  This was the drill:

The RB was 4-5y behind the C and was told to try and get outside unless there was no way possible for him to get there.  The WB/FB tried to pin the DE inside so the DE had to get upfield on the snap to engage the lead blockers outside shoulder on his way to deepest back depth.

The CB was to attack through the WR outside shoulder.  While I would normally have the CB line up straight across and attack the WR head up, our CB's have been diving inside hard on the snap.  We got it all fixed, temporarily but I think we will run this drill every padded practice for at least 10-15 minutes for the rest of the season or until we have complete competence.


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Re: 2018 Game 1 - 7U
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2018, 01:44:27 PM »
I understood your point.  I agree with your point.  Every youth coach who has been around more than a couple of years has seen coaches like that come and go. 

I was making a joke.  It was funny to me at the time I wrote the reply.  Sorry that it didn't go over that way.  I am just now realizing how tightly wound you are.  I will avoid making any replies to your posts that are off topic or not serious.
I thought it was funny....
Btw, who the hech is The Amazing Kreskin?

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Re: 2018 Game 1 - 7U
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2018, 05:39:43 PM »
who the hech is The Amazing Kreskin?

Rob, you are either a lot younger than I thought, or I am a lot older than I thought.

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Re: 2018 Game 1 - 7U
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2018, 06:06:34 PM »
I thought it was funny....
Btw, who the hech is The Amazing Kreskin?
He is from the dark ages. The founder of gangsta rap and the chia pet. AKA Krs
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