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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #105 on: January 14, 2018, 09:14:42 AM »
In my first go around as a coach, there was an opposing coach who went 4 straight years without losing a single game. When that team finally imploded, a parent from that team reached out to me and admitted that she (at the request of the coach) willing and knowingly falsified the minimum play counts for years. What really amazed me is that her son was a minimum play kid who never got his minimum plays. That coach beat me 80+ to nothing and this kid didn't get his minimum plays. One of our quirky league rules is that in extreme blowouts, only a 40 point differential is posted to save embarrassment for the losing team. Over the years, this guy posted a lot of 40 point differentials, but this kid never got his minimum plays. In the playoffs (usually blowouts), this kid never played.

So yeah. the MPR rules are abused.
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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #106 on: January 14, 2018, 09:44:17 AM »
That rule should just the opposite
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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #107 on: January 14, 2018, 10:05:41 AM »


The only option would be to hire a company to film all League games. Thats over 100 games per week. Translation= add $200 to every registration fee League wide.

Your math may be off a bit
25x $200 is $5,000
 
So 10 games and of course both teams get covered by filming the game would mean you would have a budget of $10,000 for shooting 10 games or $1,000 per game
Good work if you can get it

Ive worked with several leagues where they film all the games and provide the film via Hudl- build it into the price
Standard fee for filming a game is anywhere from 50-100   so about 1/20th or 1/10th of what you suggested. I overpay at $75 for away games- $60 for home games, but that insures hes going to show up and do a reasonably good job
Very doable
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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #108 on: January 14, 2018, 11:03:41 AM »
I overpay at $75 for away games- $60 for home games, but that insures hes going to show up and do a reasonably good job

The Spring before I joined up with Mahonz, the league contracted with a "professional" video service to do the bowl games (every team gets to play in a bowl game). No other filming was allowed per the contract. Every player and coach would get a DVD . . . except that they were a no show for Mahonz game. >:(
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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #109 on: January 14, 2018, 12:38:47 PM »
Your math may be off a bit
25x $200 is $5,000
 
So 10 games and of course both teams get covered by filming the game would mean you would have a budget of $10,000 for shooting 10 games or $1,000 per game
Good work if you can get it

Ive worked with several leagues where they film all the games and provide the film via Hudl- build it into the price
Standard fee for filming a game is anywhere from 50-100   so about 1/20th or 1/10th of what you suggested. I overpay at $75 for away games- $60 for home games, but that insures hes going to show up and do a reasonably good job
Very doable

You are probably right. They looked into it once....and ran away.... fast.
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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #110 on: January 14, 2018, 12:40:13 PM »
The Spring before I joined up with Mahonz, the league contracted with a "professional" video service to do the bowl games (every team gets to play in a bowl game). No other filming was allowed per the contract. Every player and coach would get a DVD . . . except that they were a no show for Mahonz game. >:(

Whoof...still pissed over that one. Last Game my Grandson, Son and I were on the field together.
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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #111 on: January 14, 2018, 12:47:01 PM »
Not sure why it was such a struggle, but our subbing was pre-game conceived, the MPRs as a group took a knee in front of the play-counters and were all sent into the game at the same time, and stayed in the series for the duration until they received their total.  Once they had their total, they either continued to stay in, or they subbed out after that series was over.  In other games, the MPRs started and stayed in the game until they fulfilled their allotment.  If they continued to play well, they stayed in.  Regardless, the counters were always briefed before the game and then notified as the subbing was occurring.

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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #112 on: January 14, 2018, 12:48:58 PM »
I...but...oh, okay you're right.

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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #113 on: February 05, 2018, 01:03:54 PM »
Update. 3 of our Spring players have dropped out. One just joined us last Spring, but the other two have been around for awhile. The new guy has a legitimate gripe. We moved him around quite a bit and he just never got completely comfortable with any one position. Our mistake that we would love a chance to make up for.

The other two have me twisted.

One says (according to Dad) that he's just going to sit the bench with us. I have absolutely no idea where that is coming from, but he gave a laundry list of other reasons for not playing, including Osgood Schlatter.

The other says (according to Dad) that he's not needed because our team is the "Deion Show". Deion is the best player on the team on both sides of the ball, is humble, smart, supports his teammates, first to practice, last to leave, coach's dream, etc. etc. etc. He only plays on one side of the ball. Last year was offense and yes, he got a TON of carries. 

" the boys found out that Deon and his dad are still on the team.  They feel like they are not needed therefore, and I tend to agree.  Pitbulls are really only about the Deon show.  I'm sure that kid will go far cause he is super talented however we need a place where all the kids on the team can grow their skills."

This kid was a key part of our defense for the two seasons that I coached him and would have been again this season. When I was coaching defense, I spent a TON of time with this kid and together (my guidance, his effort), I think we turned out a heck of a spur. Last season our DC took a shine to him and he did well. He got beat deep occasionally at DB against apex receivers, but who doesn't?

I drafted a response for Mahonz and he's going to add that to his response. It hurts, mainly because these 3 kids play on the same basketball team, so I'm convinced this is the result of more than a few parent sewing circle conversations. If the kids truly don't want to be with us, then fine, but I'd prefer to hear it from them.
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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #114 on: February 07, 2018, 06:52:29 PM »
You guys platoon right?
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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #115 on: February 07, 2018, 07:12:47 PM »
Yep.  “MPP” for us means you “only” get 20 plays.
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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #116 on: February 08, 2018, 08:04:24 AM »
Yep.  “MPP” for us means you “only” get 20 plays.

Of course when you cut your weakest players and take the best players from other teams like you guys are doing this season- you really dont have any "MPP" kids
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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #117 on: February 08, 2018, 09:04:23 AM »
Of course when you cut your weakest players and take the best players from other teams like you guys are doing this season- you really dont have any "MPP" kids

We'll have one whose playing time will have to be carefully managed. He's been "half in" for several years, but he really showed me something last Fall playing as a sub on the o-line. I really like a kid that gets "sparked" by playing on the line. I fought to keep him.

The guys in question, including the one who thinks will "ride the bench" for us typically got 40+ plays per game in the Spring.
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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #118 on: February 08, 2018, 10:11:19 AM »
Of course when you cut your weakest players and take the best players from other teams like you guys are doing this season- you really dont have any "MPP" kids

Odd deal with these kids. They have played for us since day one ( except for one )  and were starters even before we platooned. Although our first season everyone started both ways so I suppose that doesn't count. Still...a bit of a head scratch'r. They are all best buddies at school and somehow decided they were all going to ride the bench this year.
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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #119 on: February 08, 2018, 11:09:35 AM »
We'll have one whose playing time will have to be carefully managed. He's been "half in" for several years, but he really showed me something last Fall playing as a sub on the o-line. I really like a kid that gets "sparked" by playing on the line. I fought to keep him.

The guys in question, including the one who thinks will "ride the bench" for us typically got 40+ plays per game in the Spring.

If you guys platoon- how can a player get 40 plays as a backup?
You guys arent no huddle- Im not thinking you are getting 100 snaps on offense

If your team is doing really well- which sounds like it should- Im doubting your defense is on the field for 100 snaps

Most youth games are in the 100 total snaps area for both teams.
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