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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #75 on: January 13, 2018, 12:24:27 PM »
All of them could be contributors if they tried.

And that's what I don't get: Why don't they try?  What component of your coaching tool box allows them to be on your field if they are not trying?

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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #76 on: January 13, 2018, 12:25:22 PM »
You are being too literal.

lol Okay.  But maybe you're providing the wrong example.  ;)

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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #77 on: January 13, 2018, 12:30:59 PM »
And kids who "punch in and out" has little to do with being an MPR.  There are plenty of talented football players (who were never MPRs) who play football and have learned life as a way to just "punch in and punch out."  That's not just an MPR-thing.

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It does for me. If a player is a starter one year....has trouble consistently showing up for all Events the next....he is no longer a starter. I cant even begin to count how many times this has happened. 80% of the time its due to a Divorce.

Generally they rebound.

Good example is one of our Stud Linemen that plays Spring ball....he was basically non existent his 6th grade season and for that he played a lot less. He is fine now but was just not mentally present back then and missed a lot of practice until we started picking him up.

Funny story....this young man does not play for us in the Fall. So I started emailing everyone in November fof that 6th grade season. His email address was on auto response because it came back faster than anyone could probably type....and all it said was Fuck You ! It was his fathers email.

At first I thought they were telling me to fuck off so I got a hold of his Fall coach. He explained they were in the midst of a very nasty divorcee and gave me Moms contact info.
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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #78 on: January 13, 2018, 12:31:23 PM »
lol Okay.  But maybe you're providing the wrong example.  ;)

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Probably.  :)
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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #79 on: January 13, 2018, 12:32:41 PM »
Sadly not everyone does this for the kids. So maybe in the grand scheme MPR's are a lie. They are certainly one of the most abused Rules thats for sure.

Cheaters gonna cheat, that's for sure.

When I had to deal with the MPR issue in youth ball, part of the pre-season Parent Meeting was finding volunteers (usually moms) to be the MPR Checker(for our side) or Counter (for their side).   I told them them that even though it can be a crummy job, when you're doing it on our sideline it will be a breeze because of how we set it up for them.  I also told them if they were going to be a Counter for the other side, to go with the flow and don't fight our battles.  If they claim "Number 56 has all of his plays," then check him off and so be it.  I wasn't concerned about how my opponent was going to try and cheat his kids.  I just knew that we weren't going to cheat ours.

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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #80 on: January 13, 2018, 12:38:10 PM »
It does for me. If a player is a starter one year....has trouble consistently showing up for all Events the next....he is no longer a starter.

Oh, I get that.  If they don't attend, they aren't going to start.  We have a 6-practice exemption for our players.  There are no "excused" or "unexcused" absences.  You get 6.  After that, you turn in your gear, no ifs, ands or buts.  Everyone (parents and players) know this by Day 1.  But if you miss one practice during game week, you miss one quarter of the game.  If you miss two practices during game week, you miss miss one half of the game.  If you miss three practices during game week, you aren't playing.

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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #81 on: January 13, 2018, 04:24:11 PM »
They are certainly one of the most abused Rules thats for sure.

How so?
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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #82 on: January 13, 2018, 07:04:44 PM »
Have to ask.  What and where is spring football ? I've never heard of this before. I don't think in Florida we have this.

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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #83 on: January 13, 2018, 08:02:49 PM »
Minimum wage lol

LOL!!  You got that right. "Living wage" is the MPR of the real world. :)
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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #84 on: January 13, 2018, 08:14:53 PM »
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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #85 on: January 13, 2018, 08:17:58 PM »
Have to ask.  What and where is spring football ? I've never heard of this before. I don't think in Florida we have this.


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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #86 on: January 13, 2018, 08:25:45 PM »
Oh, I get that.  If they don't attend, they aren't going to start.  We have a 6-practice exemption for our players.  There are no "excused" or "unexcused" absences.  You get 6.  After that, you turn in your gear, no ifs, ands or buts.  Everyone (parents and players) know this by Day 1.  But if you miss one practice during game week, you miss one quarter of the game.  If you miss two practices during game week, you miss miss one half of the game.  If you miss three practices during game week, you aren't playing.

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A HS coach's luxury.  8)

This policy would be illegal in youth ball. You pay....you play.

Consider this. Every 6th grader does what is called Outdoor Lab in my County. They head to the mountain for a week and study nature and girls. Each School has a week blocked out and the vast majority schedule in the Spring. They leave Monday morning and return Friday afternoon.

So....if I applied your Rule....we forfeit that game. It would be great if the World was as black and white and you make it out too be. Its not....plenty of grey abounds.  :)

When I coach 6th graders I expect to miss my entire team for a week sometime during the Season. Fortunately they dont all attend the same schools but there will be a week or two where you are missing 8-10 at a time.
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« Reply #87 on: January 13, 2018, 08:33:06 PM »
I like MPR rules. I support them. Until this Fall, they never even applied to me. My "MPP" players typically got 20+ plays per game. This Fall I gave a kid 5 plays (half of his minimum) due to an unexcused absence. In a typical game, our "MPP" players typically have 10 plays by halftime. The exception was a game where our header decided to help his wife with the play counting and screwing it up royally.

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« Reply #88 on: January 13, 2018, 08:40:14 PM »
How so?

In my first go around as a coach, there was an opposing coach who went 4 straight years without losing a single game. When that team finally imploded, a parent from that team reached out to me and admitted that she (at the request of the coach) willing and knowingly falsified the minimum play counts for years. What really amazed me is that her son was a minimum play kid who never got his minimum plays. That coach beat me 80+ to nothing and this kid didn't get his minimum plays. One of our quirky league rules is that in extreme blowouts, only a 40 point differential is posted to save embarrassment for the losing team. Over the years, this guy posted a lot of 40 point differentials, but this kid never got his minimum plays. In the playoffs (usually blowouts), this kid never played.

So yeah. the MPR rules are abused.
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Re: 2018 Spring Preview
« Reply #89 on: January 13, 2018, 08:56:44 PM »
I like MPR rules. I support them. Until this Fall, they never even applied to me. My "MPP" players typically got 20+ plays per game. This Fall I gave a kid 5 plays (half of his minimum) due to an unexcused absence. In a typical game, our "MPP" players typically have 10 plays by halftime. The exception was a game where our header decided to help his wife with the play counting and screwing it up royally.

LOL

I asked Chuckie after that game what happened. He admitted he was trying to improve a system that wasn't broken.  :)
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