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High School Scrimmage
« on: August 11, 2018, 10:29:20 AM »
I did not attend the EWHS scrimmage last night, as we were practicing.  But I heard about.  Oh brother, did I hear about it via phone calls and text.  On the JV team, my QB took a hit on the 4th play of the first scrimmage (there were 3 scrimmage opponents).  The hit put him out of the scrimmage and into Concussion Protocol.  However, they had to have him still help with play-calls and explanations because the rest of the offense was confused about their assignments.  Our best offensive lineman couldn't participate because he doen't have enough practice days.  What's interesting about that, is that he is a young man who never misses practice.  His parents are the type of people who call you in the off-season to make sure they know the summer practice dates so they can schedule their vacation around practice so that their son doesn't miss and fall behind.  He was slated to be my starting Center and is one of the most incredible young men I've ever known (not just coached).  So the whole thing started off badly and quickly got worse....

Evidently, the new Varsity header said at the parents meeting that he's "not all about winning"....
Well that's a red flag anytime a coach offers up that excuse.  We all know that really means: "I don't know how to be successful."  It's a built-in excuse to hedge his bets.  Because if you knew how to teach your team to win, then why wouldn't you?  Aren't they successful because of their knowledge of scheme and fundamentals?  Or even perhaps their talent?  But to not "be about winning?..."  lol  If you CAN teach your kids (players) to be successful, then why wouldn't you?  Why would you hold out on them?  Why would you withhold information that could make them better?  Why would you not teach them everything?  Why wouldn't you teach them to be successful?  Why wouldn't you be about "winning?"  If you aren't about teaching your players to be successful, then you aren't doing your job as a coach; you aren't fulfilling your commitment to your players.  The only coaches who say they aren't "all about winning" are the ones who don't know how.

We teach winning because we know how to win.

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« Last Edit: August 11, 2018, 10:31:19 AM by CoachDP »
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Re: High School Scrimmage
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2018, 11:46:25 AM »
Dave

I like and respect you
You love those kids- that is admirable

But keeping your distance at this point is whats best for all concerned
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.

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Re: High School Scrimmage
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2018, 12:09:46 PM »
Dave

I like and respect you
You love those kids- that is admirable

But keeping your distance at this point is whats best for all concerned
I was gonna say samething i know you care deeply for them as i saw it 1st hand and live but you have to move on brother. This cant help any of parties who are involved. Youve moved on theyve moved on let it be. Maybe a different opputunity comes back around there but speaking about it and making an opinion can only make matters worse if another chance comes back around brother. This is just my opinion.
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Re: High School Scrimmage
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2018, 12:13:14 PM »
I have already said it, support the kids best by supporting the new coaches....its hard but has to happen.

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Re: High School Scrimmage
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2018, 01:00:35 PM »
But keeping your distance at this point is whats best for all concerned

DC, I wasn't even at the game.  If a parent wants to call, text or contact me through social media, that's fine.  We already have the relationship.  I'm not contacting their coaches or telling their kids how to play.

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Re: High School Scrimmage
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2018, 01:01:40 PM »
I was gonna say samething i know you care deeply for them as i saw it 1st hand and live but you have to move on brother.

And if I was at the scrimmage, it wouldn't have changed the events as they took place.

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Re: High School Scrimmage
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2018, 01:04:30 PM »
I have already said it, support the kids best by supporting the new coaches....its hard but has to happen.

It's up to that coach to be able to earn the support.  And as the parent of the injured player told me, the HC didn't even call to see how his son was feeling.  Not going to earn much support with that inaction.

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Re: High School Scrimmage
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2018, 01:07:21 PM »
Maybe a different opputunity comes back around there but speaking about it and making an opinion can only make matters worse if another chance comes back around brother. This is just my opinion.

Tito, they already know my opinion.   They've made their choice and they'll live with it, excuses and all.  Me?  I've got a team to coach.

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Re: High School Scrimmage
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2018, 01:22:55 PM »
I have already said it, support the kids best by supporting the new coaches.

If I were on the staff, then yes, I agree.  But I'm just another member of the peanut-gallery, at this point.

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Re: High School Scrimmage
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2018, 01:32:44 PM »
I have already said it, support the kids best by supporting the new coaches....its hard but has to happen.

I could see not commenting, but "supporting"? I wouldn't support something that I thought sucked. I doubt if DP would either. You can support your former players without bad mouthing the new coaches.
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Re: High School Scrimmage
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2018, 01:38:07 PM »
Evidently, the new Varsity header said at the parents meeting that he's "not all about winning"....
That and "I'm not a 'win at all costs' coach" are the battle cries of mediocrity. You nailed it. It's making your excuse before you even take the field. Pulling your parachute before you leave the plane.


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The only coaches who say they aren't "all about winning" are the ones who don't know how.
No crime in not knowing how to win, but that quote states for the record that he isn't even going to try. This really bums me out, Dave. Your players deserve better. All players deserve better.
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Re: High School Scrimmage
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2018, 03:11:13 PM »
That and "I'm not a 'win at all costs' coach" are the battle cries of mediocrity. You nailed it. It's making your excuse before you even take the field. Pulling your parachute before you leave the plane.

No crime in not knowing how to win, but that quote states for the record that he isn't even going to try. This really bums me out, Dave. Your players deserve better. All players deserve better.

I've been known to say, "I like winning, we all want to win, and I expect to win.........but I won't compromise morals to win."  And the reason I've said that before is because the league I coach in has some coaches that have done just about everything they can to cheat.  It's sad.  Luckily they get booted when their caught, but it's become a bit of an issue with some of the parents.

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Re: High School Scrimmage
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2018, 03:37:19 PM »
If I were on the staff, then yes, I agree.  But I'm just another member of the peanut-gallery, at this point.

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Nope, youre the guy that the kids want to side with and protect due to prior trust and relationship....surely you recognize that much,,,,the kids are angry but if you say give the new guy a chance, do your best, play hard and make us all proud! .....then the kids can be winners. Just my two cents.
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Re: High School Scrimmage
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2018, 03:44:38 PM »
the kids are angry but if you say give the new guy a chance, do your best, play hard and make us all proud! .....then the kids can be winners.

New guy?  Steve, the kids didn't like him last year when he was the Defensive Coordonator.  He's one of those stand-around-and-make-speeches guys ("You gotta want it!")  The Varsity staff didn't respect him because he doesn't understand scheme, adjustments or theory. 

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Re: High School Scrimmage
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2018, 03:51:28 PM »
I've been known to say, "I like winning, we all want to win, and I expect to win.........but I won't compromise morals to win."  And the reason I've said that before is because the league I coach in has some coaches that have done just about everything they can to cheat.  It's sad.  Luckily they get booted when their caught, but it's become a bit of an issue with some of the parents.

100%. Very few youth coaches are "win at all costs". I mean, really. But many unsuccessful coaches think they are unsuccessful because their opponents have compromised their morals. That MUST be the reason, right?
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