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Re: KYA Fall Football in Keller, TX 2018
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2018, 07:18:45 AM »
Drafting is cool IF the entire league drafts
When I first started coaching- it was like that- an In House all draft league

That way you have no "super teams" where there are talent laden teams where the coach has gone out and recruited awesome talent
vs the guy who either didnt recruit at all or just went out and recruited any warm body that wanted to play

In theory it creates a level playing field- which makes it easier to compete if you are a halfway decent coach. There shouldnt be huge talent disparities in teams
Obviously those who understand how to eval players better than others will have the more talented teams
HOWEVER if everyone is picking from the same kids- in these in house leagues- you typically are not going to see those handful of super stacked teams you see in some leagues
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.

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Re: KYA Fall Football in Keller, TX 2018
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2018, 03:51:17 PM »
Coach Cisar you are right.  It is very cool.  And every team in our league must draft players from the league pool.  We can freeze up to 6 players from our previous teams but that gives others the early round draft picks which usually brings the teams back to equal talent standing.  I love the pre-draft evals, coaches meetings, planning & ranking, mock draft, strategy and the actual draft day.  Fun stuff.  The you get to see how well you drafted when the players hit the field. 

I give a clinic each year to our new coaches that teach them the best way to draft based on many of our veteran coaches strategies and how evaluate players so we have tried to educate our coaches in that area since a few of us are really good at drafting and evaluating players. 

Most of the time all teams in the age divisions are evenly matched unless someone was lucky enough to pick a Barry Sanders.  And we all face that many times in any league.

Drafting is cool IF the entire league drafts
When I first started coaching- it was like that- an In House all draft league

That way you have no "super teams" where there are talent laden teams where the coach has gone out and recruited awesome talent
vs the guy who either didnt recruit at all or just went out and recruited any warm body that wanted to play

In theory it creates a level playing field- which makes it easier to compete if you are a halfway decent coach. There shouldnt be huge talent disparities in teams
Obviously those who understand how to eval players better than others will have the more talented teams
HOWEVER if everyone is picking from the same kids- in these in house leagues- you typically are not going to see those handful of super stacked teams you see in some leagues
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Re: KYA Fall Football in Keller, TX 2018
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2018, 04:00:58 PM »
Well we had a pretty good draft not the best but I will take it.  We drafted a pretty good backfield.  We just missed the two top running backs in the draft.  A coach dropped out for personal reasons and a waiting list coach came in and he had frozen these two RB players; his son and a friend.  Not unhappy but dropping coaches seems to happen more than I like.  They usually get scared and overwhelmed about how hard it is to put together a good team.  We give them a clinic but half of them don't take it serious until they get out to the try out field and you hear them say "Oh shit"  because they did not prepare like we told them.  Too funny. 

Anyway we did draft 3 of the top 5 linemen.  I got lucky with a Hat pick that was pulled from the Hat since they did not show up at try outs.  These players are placed on teams based on a drawing system.  I'll take him.  We coached his older brother in the last go round, who was an animal. 

We can probably run some good Power Wing Beast Offense and maybe even some more traditional Unbalanced Single Wing.  Coach Whit has Offense so we will see what he decides this season.  I have defense and I might be a tad short on speed but we will see over the next two week or so.  Our first game is four weeks out so about 12 practices.

Hope everyone is having a great season so far.  I will check in later this week.

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Re: KYA Fall Football in Keller, TX 2018
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2018, 10:27:08 PM »
I love the pre-draft evals, coaches meetings, planning & ranking, mock draft, strategy and the actual draft day.  Fun stuff.

--Sounds like you enjoy the NFL simulation/fantasy aspect.  As I said, whatever floats your boat.  And here I thought it was all about coaching.  But elaborate on the "strategy" of draft day, if you will.

The you get to see how well you drafted when the players hit the field.

--So you believe your draft determines the outcome...

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Re: KYA Fall Football in Keller, TX 2018
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2018, 01:12:25 AM »
I love the pre-draft evals, coaches meetings, planning & ranking, mock draft, strategy and the actual draft day.  Fun stuff.

--Sounds like you enjoy the NFL simulation/fantasy aspect.  As I said, whatever floats your boat.  And here I thought it was all about coaching.  But elaborate on the "strategy" of draft day, if you will.

I am a pretty good "on field" coach too and been coaching tackle youth football since 1994 in some pretty tough football leagues in Texas and Colorado.  I have about 25+ tackle seasons under my belt.  Take a look at CoachParker.org if you want to know more about me and my coaching background.

So a draft day strategy we just used is running through a mock draft with teams who had frozen players and what type of players they already had.  We mocked it several times and came up with the strategy that worked for us in the draft.  Since we did not carry forward any players to the season, we had the first 2 picks and the #4 pick "live picks" that were live unfrozen players.  So we wanted these 3 players bad.  We knew one coach that picked at #3 liked his old running back that played for him in the past that we had ranked about #8 but might want our #3 ranked player that was faster than his old RB but we found out he did not like our our #2 ranked player.  So we chose our #1 and #3 player in actual draft and came back for #2 and it worked out perfectly.  Out of 17 players we picked only 3 are rookies for 9/10 year olds.  We are pretty happy.  Of course, we need to see how we look on the field now as a team.

 


The you get to see how well you drafted when the players hit the field.

--So you believe your draft determines the outcome...

Yes, the draft can determine the outcome.  Many coaches with the "oh i can coach any team" attitude do not prepare for the try outs or draft and wind up picking terrible players in the draft.  They wind up losing just about every game because they did not learn the off-field aspects of coaching a youth football team.  When I coached Select I had to recruit and evaluate players.  I would much rather start with a team of good players than with a team of terrible players.  So I take the try outs, evaluations and draft seriously.  And because I was tired of beating up on many teams at KYA Football, I developed and teach the football coaches clinic which includes my draft strategies so new coaches can be prepared at the Draft and also know how to be better KYA FB League coaches during the season.  Here are some videos of the KYA FB Coaches Training https://coachparker.org/youth-football-coaching-clinic-video-series-by-coach-parker/

I actually recommend this forum for them to read and Coach Cisar's books along with many other coaching materials.  I keep hearing from so many coaches that they hate to read so I started doing videos on Youtube and Podcasts. And to be honest doing all this off field coaching stuff makes me better as a coach as well.   

I get frustrated each season with some of our league's new coaches, because many of these rookie coaches think they know how to coach because they played football in High School or College.  I see them at try outs standing around joking with other coaches when I am talking with every player, his parents and maybe his last coach and watching him go through the drills and then buying the try out tape to review in more detail at home. 

When you think you know it all you know nothing. I try to keep pushing myself in all aspects of coaching.  Sure I can coach any youth football team you give me, but if I can prepare myself to get better players though the league rules and processes, I am learning how the system works to be the best I can be. 

One last thing, when I started coaching in the Arvada Midget Football Association I was new to Colorado football and to AMFA.  I took the league VP out to lunch for two hours to learn how to coach at AMFA and find out all the ins and outs of the league.  He said I was the only coach in about 10 years that ever asked him about how to coach in the league.   

So ya, I like the draft and ALL aspects of coaching.

~ Parker
 

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Re: KYA Fall Football in Keller, TX 2018
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2018, 01:19:05 AM »
I love the pre-draft evals, coaches meetings, planning & ranking, mock draft, strategy and the actual draft day.  Fun stuff.

--Sounds like you enjoy the NFL simulation/fantasy aspect.  As I said, whatever floats your boat.  And here I thought it was all about coaching.  But elaborate on the "strategy" of draft day, if you will.

I am a pretty good "on field" coach too and been coaching tackle youth football since 1994 in some pretty tough football leagues in Texas and Colorado.  I have about 25+ tackle seasons under my belt.  Take a look at CoachParker.org if you want to know more about me and my coaching background.

So a draft day strategy we just used is running through a mock draft with teams who had frozen players and what type of players they already had.  We mocked it several times and came up with the strategy that worked for us in the draft.  Since we did not carry forward any players to the season, we had the first 2 picks and the #4 pick "live picks" that were live unfrozen players.  So we wanted these 3 players bad.  We knew one coach that picked at #3 liked his old running back that played for him in the past that we had ranked about #8 but might want our #3 ranked player that was faster than his old RB but we found out he did not like our our #2 ranked player.  So we chose our #1 and #3 player in actual draft and came back for #2 and it worked out perfectly.  Out of 17 players we picked only 3 are rookies for 9/10 year olds.  We are pretty happy.  Of course, we need to see how we look on the field now as a team.

 


The you get to see how well you drafted when the players hit the field.

--So you believe your draft determines the outcome...

Yes, the draft can determine the outcome.  Many coaches with the "oh i can coach any team" attitude do not prepare for the try outs or draft and wind up picking terrible players in the draft.  They wind up losing just about every game because they did not learn the off-field aspects of coaching a youth football team.  When I coached Select I had to recruit and evaluate players.  I would much rather start with a team of good players than with a team of terrible players.  So I take the try outs, evaluations and draft seriously.  And because I was tired of beating up on many teams at KYA Football, I developed and teach the football coaches clinic which includes my draft strategies so new coaches can be prepared at the Draft and also know how to be better KYA FB League coaches during the season.  Here are some videos of the KYA FB Coaches Training https://coachparker.org/youth-football-coaching-clinic-video-series-by-coach-parker/

I actually recommend this forum for them to read and Coach Cisar's books along with many other coaching materials.  I keep hearing from so many coaches that they hate to read so I started doing videos on Youtube and Podcasts. And to be honest doing all this off field coaching stuff makes me better as a coach as well.   

I get frustrated each season with some of our league's new coaches, because many of these rookie coaches think they know how to coach because they played football in High School or College.  I see them at try outs standing around joking with other coaches when I am talking with every player, his parents and maybe his last coach and watching him go through the drills and then buying the try out tape to review in more detail at home. 

When you think you know it all you know nothing. I try to keep pushing myself in all aspects of coaching.  Sure I can coach any youth football team you give me, but if I can prepare myself to get better players though the league rules and processes, I am learning how the system works to be the best I can be. 

One last thing, when I started coaching in the Arvada Midget Football Association I was new to Colorado football and to AMFA.  I took the league VP out to lunch for two hours to learn how to coach at AMFA and find out all the ins and outs of the league.  He said I was the only coach in about 10 years that ever asked him about how to coach in the league.   

So ya, I like the draft and ALL aspects of coaching.

~ Parker
 


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Re: KYA Fall Football in Keller, TX 2018
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2018, 02:53:16 AM »
Now that's an answer I can appreciate.

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Re: KYA Fall Football in Keller, TX 2018
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2018, 06:07:12 PM »
We had our first practice last night.  Pretty good practice, but missing 3 players; all three were linemen.  Ouch.  We found out our top LM pick broke his tibia so he is out 6 weeks.  Timing is about as good as it gets since we have a bye our second game so should be ready by 3rd game we hope. 

Team looks pretty good.  I think we have our backfield worked out and the linemen look good that were there.  We played tug of war and found a sleeper linemen, so very happy about that find.  He was a brother pick of one of our guys that played for us before and we picked him and had to take the brother option.  The brother option might be better than his brother.  Too funny.  Lucky is always good. 

We have three players on this team that we coached their older brothers in the past.  Pretty cool. 

We have our second practice Thursday.  Look forward to some light hitting getting ready for real hitting on Saturday morning.  Installing Beast Wedge and Tank tomorrow and reviewing a few 62 fronts from my 62 Multi 8 Defense.  Should be fun.  Ton of tackle wheel drills too and a blocking pod.  Should be fun. 

Hope all are well.  Play for Fun and Winning is Funner.

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