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Offline angalton

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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #75 on: October 01, 2018, 05:25:17 PM »
This maybe a dum question, but have you done chaser drill to get them moving out of the backfield? Clark's 10 perfect plays? Wall drill for your blast play? Getting hit from behind might get them moving. Believe it or not our edge plays are where we are getting the worst effort with running.
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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #76 on: October 03, 2018, 04:21:10 PM »
I again go back to this question (at least I think I've asked before)...

Are you sure you guys didn't come into this season with unrealistic expectations of what this group would be able to do?  You just finished off a great run with what you described many times as a special group of 8th graders that had been in your system for several years.  Being involved with coaching a special group like that can make you start to feel like your coaching skills are inflated.  I'm not saying you guys aren't great coaches, but maybe look reflect a little bit on exactly what you're dealing with now and not compare them (maybe even subconsciously) with what you used to have.

I had a similar situation in basketball last season.  Coaching 8th graders with tons of experience, sport IQ and "mojo" can make it much harder to drop back down and coach a group of inexperienced blank slates.

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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #77 on: October 03, 2018, 05:21:09 PM »
I again go back to this question (at least I think I've asked before)...

Are you sure you guys didn't come into this season with unrealistic expectations of what this group would be able to do?  You just finished off a great run with what you described many times as a special group of 8th graders that had been in your system for several years.  Being involved with coaching a special group like that can make you start to feel like your coaching skills are inflated.  I'm not saying you guys aren't great coaches, but maybe look reflect a little bit on exactly what you're dealing with now and not compare them (maybe even subconsciously) with what you used to have.

I had a similar situation in basketball last season.  Coaching 8th graders with tons of experience, sport IQ and "mojo" can make it much harder to drop back down and coach a group of inexperienced blank slates.

Good points.

Our League format is somewhat unique. We can stay with the same team for up to 7 seasons.

That great 8th grade team we just finished up with was a work in progress for many seasons. That great 8th grade team also suffered thru a few 50-0 beat downs during that progression.

This new team?  I simply cannot put my finger on the problem which is.... a great week of practice is not translating to the games ...which happens to be the same excuse Coach Joseph from the Denver Broncos used all last year in his post game pressers. 

He sucks...so that means... so do I.

There most certainly have been some adjustments in how we coach thats for sure but that was expected. Been there done that but got thru the mayhem much better than we are now.

I cannot find a RB that will hit a monument on gameday. I cannot find two DE's that will attack on gameday. We have been thru maybe 10 by now.

During most every game something happens that stops me in my tracks as I say to myself...really...we need to practice for that too?  Like....calling all the kids by their last names since we have multiple Issac's and Justin's and about 5 kids whose names seem to start with an L. Then there is Bryson, Brayden and maybe a Brantley.  Well....most of these kids never learned to respond to anyone calling them by their last names. So...here I am calling for Schuch on game and he basically has no clue he is ....Schuch....and is standing RIGHT NEXT TOO ME because they all look the same too me.

So he goes running onto the field eventually....late.

And so on.....its like we are all idiots in training. 

Currently I am out of ideas but will keep plugging along. Maybe something will hit me in the forehead like a sledgehammer.  Hopefully that happens soon and I can look back and say...DERF!!!!.
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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #78 on: October 03, 2018, 05:23:17 PM »
This maybe a dum question, but have you done chaser drill to get them moving out of the backfield? Clark's 10 perfect plays? Wall drill for your blast play? Getting hit from behind might get them moving. Believe it or not our edge plays are where we are getting the worst effort with running.

Clarks 10 perfect plays is 5 with this Group. Check

Chaser drills. Check

Wall drill. We dont have a wall so use blocking dummies. Check

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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #79 on: October 03, 2018, 05:52:02 PM »
Dang Mike

I feel bad for y'all.

I do hope it turns around and the light comes on faster than one kid at a time
 ;)
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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #80 on: October 03, 2018, 06:26:20 PM »
Dang Mike

I feel bad for y'all.

I do hope it turns around and the light comes on faster than one kid at a time
 ;)

Told my Daughter to have E eat his Wheaties because Im going to start playing him on Defense this week. He currently plays Offense and ST's.

Her response....Dad I dont like the idea of him playing all the time. There are 19 players on the team.  ( she fears football )

My response....no there are maybe 7 players on the team and E is now one of them.
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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #81 on: October 03, 2018, 06:33:21 PM »
Whats amazing to me how some parents and kids are "ok" with mediocrity or less

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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #82 on: October 03, 2018, 08:24:40 PM »
Whats amazing to me how some parents and kids are "ok" with mediocrity or less

What's amazing to me is how many coaches are.

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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #83 on: October 04, 2018, 02:31:22 AM »
Whats amazing to me how some parents and kids are "ok" with mediocrity or less

Oh she wants him to be successful....just not at football.  :(

It isnt working. The kid is no natural thats for sure but is athletic and improving...fast.

He is one of the kids that does not always respond to his last name so I told him we need to come up with a nickname for him.

He suggested Brian.

What the....no clue where that came from.  ???
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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #84 on: October 04, 2018, 02:37:32 AM »
What's amazing to me is how many coaches are.

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Talking to my OC tonight....he asked me if I was ready for this season to end or if I would be sad when its over like last year.

My response....last year was boring. All they needed from me was a football and a tee. This year I am on a mission and hope it does not end before I figure out this puzzle.  >:(
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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #85 on: October 04, 2018, 09:42:55 AM »
You should just go with nick names for all the players. That will help with the name issue.

What do you do as your pregame warm up? Maybe you might want to change that up?

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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #86 on: October 04, 2018, 09:53:49 AM »
What do you do as your pregame warm up? Maybe you might want to change that up?

We would play 1 quarter of football as our pregame warmup.

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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #87 on: October 04, 2018, 09:58:56 AM »
We would play 1 quarter of football as our pregame warmup.

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That was a suggestion I made. Do you do that with your team this year?

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« Reply #88 on: October 04, 2018, 12:28:48 PM »
That was a suggestion I made. Do you do that with your team this year?

Nope.  I'm not the header.

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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #89 on: October 04, 2018, 12:31:10 PM »
Some of the "complex" things that I struggled to teach the 6-8th graders . . . these guys pick it up right away.
Some of the "simple" things that I just take for granted . . . complete whiff.

One thing I've learned with bobble heads is that aggression = grabass. Can't have the former without the latter.

DP: Play a quarter of football as a warmup? Oh no. 80 plays is a VERY long game to most 7 year olds. The one or two kids who play hard for 80 plays really stand out. I think we've gone into every half time within striking distance. Late in the game, one or two players just take over.

We have been blown out by teams who fumble 10+ times. The o-lines we go up against week to week are complete jokes. Ours is quite good. Doesn't matter. Last week's opponent scored once on a jet sweep . . . that he FUMBLED, picked it up, reversed field and ran 40 yards without the benefit of blocking. Later on the same play call, our DE hit him 1.1 second after he got the hand off. He jump cut just as the QB hit our DE in the back, resulting in a broken tackle. DT was right there, but RB humped out to gain depth and space. At this point, he's about 8 yards deep in the backfield. He bobs, weaves, jukes, spins, stiff arms and reverses field on his way to another 40 yard score. Their OC is celebrating like he beat the world, but there's no way that's how they drew it up.

In practice, we tackle very well. We have Mojo. We have learned not to trust anything we see in practice. On a game field, they go back to recess football. I implemented a new incentive program designed to remove their "filters". I've noticed that they are filtering the knowledge we give them. They decide which details are important and which are not. They decide when certain things are important and when they are not. My new "drill" is designed to teach them the importance of paying attention to detail.

We are going to install the empty passing package because . . . because "why not?" We seem to be extremely good at passing the ball. Anyway, the point is, Mahonz was discussing the best way to tag the eligible receivers using animal names or whatever. I commented that they are 80% on recognizing their own freaking names, so if you tag a pass to an animal name, you will be throwing to empty grass 99% of the time.

On game day, each position coach is laser focused on getting players on and off the field. If you turn your back for one play to get water, answer a question about dogs, listen to a story about dogs or scratch yourself, you will end up with less than or more than 11 players on the field.

I get asked "when is the game/practice over?" no fewer than 5 times per day.

We introduced mega splits last night, small, medium and large. Small is foot to foot, medium is one arm length, large is fingertips. About 10 reps in, my T put his arm up to get his splits, then my guard proceeded to slap his hand repeatedly as if he'd never seen the T's hand in his personal space before.

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Are you sure you guys didn't come into this season with unrealistic expectations of what this group would be able to do?

Not at all. They are actually capable of much more than I ever thought they would be. DC used to like to call us a "select" team. Our last Spring team, that was true, but not in previous Spring seasons and certainly not in the Fall. What we were was a team that had just about maxed out our talent. The pieces were in place and they worked. We made fewer mistakes than the other teams and that was enough most of the time. Sometimes it was enough to blow a team out.

2nd grade ball is different. There are nothing BUT mistakes and there are special players who can overcome almost any mistake. We don't have any of those, so 9 out of 11 must play very well for anything to work and that seldom happens.

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I feel bad for y'all.

Oh no. Don't feel bad for us. I'm having fun and I think we all are. Football has become a big part of each of our players identities. That's huge considering that 2 months ago, they were consumed with picking their noses.  I had a bit of a coaching crisis on Saturday because I expected us to win that game and I was SO far off, it bummed me out. I was livid that my o-line jumped offside about a hundred times. I was livid that the other team converted a 4th and 1 by pulling the old "go on 2" trick. That's the 2nd grade football equivalent of getting slapped in the face. Then I was livid because I witnessed several kids simply give up at the end of the game. I was going to severely punish them for all of that. So I walked away from football until Monday evening and felt better. I decided that being livid was a "me" issue and punishing them on Wednesday (first practice of the week) for something they did on Saturday would be unproductive and cruel and would serve no purpose other than soothing my ego.  Then we started talking mega splits beast and empty and I got excited again. We'll deal with the DE's as we have all year.  The lesson is not to put any stock in what they do in practice.

2nd graders will humble you.  The best team in our division is 6-0 with 239 points for and 7 against, yet they are TERRIBLE by the standards of the Dumcoach community. They fumbled 15 times to our 1 on the way to beating us 32-0.  Offensive numbers are dictated by kids who can beat 11 defenders without blocking. Defensive numbers are dictated by kids who can't be blocked and can tackle anyone on the field.
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