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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #90 on: October 04, 2018, 12:34:05 PM »
DP: Play a quarter of football as a warmup? Oh no. 80 plays is a VERY long game to most 7 year olds.

80 plays?  I was never getting 80 plays in a game in youth ball.  As a header, we averaged 24 offensive plays per game, but a large part of that was because of the Slaughter Rule/running clock.

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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #91 on: October 04, 2018, 01:14:26 PM »
80 plays?  I was never getting 80 plays in a game in youth ball.  As a header, we averaged 24 offensive plays per game, but a large part of that was because of the Slaughter Rule/running clock.

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But you are probably playing 50 plays on Defense. Have to consider that.

We shortened our pre game so the Smurfs could stay engaged thru the 4th Q.

We had one of our Friday night games go 2:20 time wise. Both teams were a mess in the 4th Q.
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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #92 on: October 04, 2018, 01:18:13 PM »
You should just go with nick names for all the players. That will help with the name issue.

What do you do as your pregame warm up? Maybe you might want to change that up?

I used to do nick names. I need to get back to that.

Our pre game is 45 minutes.

Meat Grinder

Tackling Drill

one or two KO and KOR reps.

Alignment and assignment review for the D vs a scout formation.

Run a few plays for the O. 
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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #93 on: October 04, 2018, 01:20:20 PM »
We had one of our Friday night games go 2:20 time wise. Both teams were a mess in the 4th Q.

2 hours, 20 minutes?  I've never heard of that, even if both teams were passing every play.  Our games are 90 minutes and that includes halftime.

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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #94 on: October 04, 2018, 01:29:47 PM »
2 hours, 20 minutes?  I've never heard of that, even if both teams were passing every play.  Our games are 90 minutes and that includes halftime.

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We had close to a 3 hour game thanks to awful officiaing and the opposing team laying on the field for 10 minutes every time they stubbed their toe.
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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #95 on: October 04, 2018, 01:32:37 PM »
2 hours, 20 minutes?  I've never heard of that, even if both teams were passing every play.  Our games are 90 minutes and that includes halftime.

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It was absurd. One of the Refs is in his 90's and well known for long games. At this level if you call everything the game would go 4 hours. They were well on their way to accomplishing just that. The 7:30 game finished up at 11pm.

Consider this....we have a 7:30 KO in two weeks. With Smurfs.

You are 6 or 7 years old. Get up and go to school. Come home and have about 90 minutes to get the the game field. Play until about 7 pm for a 5:30 start or 9 pm for a 7:30 start. Then its off to BWW's if you want to participate in a fundraiser they Sponsor.

Friday night games are a bad idea for Smurfs yet we will play 3 of 8 games on a Friday night.
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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #96 on: October 04, 2018, 01:40:51 PM »
Funny story about that 90 year old Ref. We have a good relationship. He has been doing the Smurf games for as long as i can remember. Too old for the big boy games anymore. He was a HS football ref and a College Basketball ref back in the 1930's.  :P

He was doing our Game One this season. A 5:30pm Friday night KO.

We are down 32-0 late in the 4th and we are running over time wise per usual.

So I asked him how many TO's I had left.

3!

So I ask him if I take them all now would he flag me?

Yes!

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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #97 on: October 04, 2018, 01:45:00 PM »
I've got 8th graders. Not one single game under the lights.  :'(

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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #98 on: October 04, 2018, 01:50:43 PM »
2nd graders will humble you. 

And first graders....we have a handful of those too.

Im not liking this play up Rule they have created. Time to kill it. 

Since Ernie has 17 Board Members Im going to ask him if AMFA would be interested in managing a Tiny Mites Division like Keenan set up in SJSA back in the day.

There are 11 teams in our Division from 9 Orgs....how many of those Orgs could field an 8 man 1st Grade team if they worked it?
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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #99 on: October 04, 2018, 01:51:44 PM »
I've got 8th graders. Not one single game under the lights.  :'(

Good grief. I would trade you in a NY Minute.
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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #100 on: October 04, 2018, 01:56:31 PM »

Since Ernie has 17 Board Members Im going to ask him if AMFA would be interested in managing a Tiny Mites Division like Keenan set up in SJSA back in the day.

There are 11 teams in our Division from 9 Orgs....how many of those Orgs could field an 8 man 1st Grade team if they worked it?
A good amount of organizations have done studies and found that if they offer football at an earlier age they keep them away from some other sports and give them options early.

Our organization out here was up against a new up and coming Org. that offered football at 7. We used to be 8 start

Now we have 7 playing with the 8s and it seems to be working to pull from what the other Org. was taking.

I could see if you have teams/ level for the very young it would help
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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #101 on: October 04, 2018, 01:58:14 PM »
I've got 8th graders. Not one single game under the lights.  :'(

The only thing I like about night games is that the temp is usually cooler and my afternoon was free.

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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #102 on: October 04, 2018, 02:10:09 PM »
A good amount of organizations have done studies and found that if they offer football at an earlier age they keep them away from some other sports and give them options early.

Our organization out here was up against a new up and coming Org. that offered football at 7. We used to be 8 start

Now we have 7 playing with the 8s and it seems to be working to pull from what the other Org. was taking.

I could see if you have teams/ level for the very young it would help

With football being under attack our League has changed its stripes somewhat when it comes to expanding.

It used to be they were dead set against Spring Football. I participated in Spring Football in another League and was treated like a pariah.

My Son started a Tiny Mite Division in 2006 that lasted for 10 years before the Org decided to no longer manage it. The League would have nothing to do with it but decided after the Tiny Mites went bye bye that any first grader could play second grade ball.

This creates issues in a grade based format.

These first graders playing up can continue to do so thru the 8th grade and then drop back down and play two seasons of 8th grade ball. Or they can drop back down during any season and play in their normal grad Group.

Now we have a PW issue where kids are playing on the same team that are 2 or 3 years apart in age if a team had a kid that gets held back in school. No biggie except this is an unlimited weight format so size varies greatly along with maturity.

The team in our current Division that is crushing everyone is from our Org.  Their core played as first graders last year and then formed a new team of second graders this year. Their experience shows. They have no first graders on their team this year.

I dont believe this would be an issue if were were talking MS level kids....but these kids are all really young and it shows.

We need a Tiny Mite Division. This play up Rule is going to create problems in the long term.

One of our Coaches has a son who is a first grader. lar and I are considering training him up over the next month to take over a new second grade team for 2019 and take the kids that are first graders on our team....all of them especially one are going to be serious ball'rs when they "grow up" a little. 

I dont want any of them because I see the writing on the wall...by the time we get to the 5th grade level they will all want to play with their buddies at school....as they should. 
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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #103 on: October 04, 2018, 02:15:17 PM »
Mike and Lar I feel your pain. I have coached kids as young as 3. It truly is trying to herd cats. Thankfully my team this years is made up of 8 and 7 year olds. You can clearly tell the difference between the 7 and 8 year olds and I don't mean just by size. In our league we have 1 coach on the field and I actually think that hurts the kids development. The kids use the coach as a crutch imo and it also means the coaches don't have to put in as much effort in teaching because they can just move the kids around on the field. I wish they would take the coaches off the field like they do in other leagues, like down in the Miami area.

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Re: My 2018 Fall Season GM1, GM2, GM3,GM4, GM5
« Reply #104 on: October 04, 2018, 02:20:22 PM »
In our league we have 1 coach on the field and I actually think that hurts the kids development. The kids use the coach as a crutch imo and it also means the coaches don't have to put in as much effort in teaching because they can just move the kids around on the field. I wish they would take the coaches off the field like they do in other leagues, like down in the Miami area.

How 'bout if your coach doesn't instruct on the field?  When I coached 7-9s, they allowed 1 coach for each team on the field.  The only thing I did on the field was the same thing I do on the sideline; send in plays.  When I coach on game day, I'll coach them on the sideline (coach offense when defense is on the field, and vice versa).  But we never coached our players while we were on the field.

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