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Re: My Fall 2018 Spring Season - Final Edition GM 1
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2018, 11:10:07 AM »
Scouted our week 3 opponent after our game.  Went for it on 4th and 30 from their own 10 to open the half. Incomplete pass. Opponent punched it in to close the lead 12-6. Cost them the game.

Coaching sure looks easy from the stands or from the Lazy-boy.

When you see decisions like that made, then coaching from the stands is easy.

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Re: My Fall 2018 Spring Season - Final Edition GM 1
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2018, 12:47:09 PM »
So because they could do hand signals and slap their helmets, that made him a good coach?  Lining up 20 yards from a kick-off, poor offensive and defensive line play, focusing on "what the high school does" at the expense of your own team and getting beaten by 58 points doesn't sound the the earmarks of "a very good coach."

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It certainly does not sound like the earmarks of a very good coach. The hand signals and slapping helmets don't by themselves make him a good coach. His teams have always been very well coached . . . until Saturday. I've known him and coached against him for 7 years and as I've said, Saturday was very out of character for him. You'll have to take my word for it that he's a very good coach.

I hate to guess, but I will anyway. Perhaps he and other coaches are looking at this Spring league as a series of glorified scrimmages. Perhaps, their only focus is to prepare them for high school ball to the detriment of 1) a good experience 2) being competitive 3) reinforcing sound football skills and fundamentals.  I fear that every new team this Spring might be taking this route. That would be too bad. It just doesn't sit right with me to coach a football team without the goal of being the best you can be. That would be my biggest problem with "rookie tackle", although I would try to field the best football team possible within the given parameters.

Our main rival hates our guts and are pulling out all the stops to beat us this year.  I love them for that.

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Re: My Fall 2018 Spring Season - Final Edition GM 1
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2018, 01:06:28 PM »
So because they could do hand signals and slap their helmets, that made him a good coach?  Lining up 20 yards from a kick-off, poor offensive and defensive line play, focusing on "what the high school does" at the expense of your own team and getting beaten by 58 points doesn't sound the the earmarks of "a very good coach."

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Chit happens. We've all been beaten like a drum before. Just gotta learn from it and move on.

His second grade team was impressive. He beat us like a drum that season....twice.  :(
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Re: My Fall 2018 Spring Season - Final Edition GM 1
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2018, 06:48:43 PM »
We've all been beaten like a drum before.

True.  But when itís happened to us, it proved that we werenít as good as we thought we were.

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Re: My Fall 2018 Spring Season - Final Edition GM 1
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2018, 06:52:01 PM »
You'll have to take my word for it that he's a very good coach.

Thatís fine.  Itís just that you gave me many more examples of why he wasnít.

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Re: My Fall 2018 Spring Season - Final Edition GM 1
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2018, 10:14:42 AM »
True.  But when itís happened to us, it proved that we werenít as good as we thought we were.

óDave


For me....turnovers are usually the culprit in a blowout between two teams that shouldn't get blown out. Sometime I show up for a game and wonder if Im on the wrong sideline. Dang kids.  :P

Reminds me of last Fall. Game one we HAMMER a rival powerhouse. I was pretty shocked but they had issues protecting the football. Ten weeks later we beat them in the Conference Championship by 2 points. We committed the only turnover of the game.

Last Saturday this opponent had 5 turnovers....we had none. This certainly lead to the very lopsided score.
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Re: My Fall 2018 Spring Season - Final Edition GM 1
« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2018, 10:18:16 AM »
Thatís fine.  Itís just that you gave me many more examples of why he wasnít.

óDave

Personally I think he needs a better Staff.
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Re: My Fall 2018 Spring Season - Final Edition GM 1
« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2018, 10:48:28 AM »
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk

 :)

powerhouse = a team that has beaten the bajebaz out of you before.  8)
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Re: My Fall 2018 Spring Season - Final Edition GM 1
« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2018, 10:58:18 AM »
Personally I think he needs a better Staff.

I agree. Jake was by their bench and said that his ACs were saying some pretty dumb things during the game. If I had to guess, these were dads trying to get their sons ready for "high school ball".
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Re: My Fall 2018 Spring Season - Final Edition GM 1
« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2018, 11:00:20 AM »


Last Saturday this opponent had 5 turnovers....we had none.

That all? Seems like there were more. Onside kick, 3 INTs. That's 4. How many times did they fail to convert on 4th down?
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Re: My Fall 2018 Spring Season - Final Edition GM 1
« Reply #41 on: April 04, 2018, 11:17:41 AM »
That all? Seems like there were more. Onside kick, 3 INTs. That's 4. How many times did they fail to convert on 4th down?

That's not really how that stat works.
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Re: My Fall 2018 Spring Season - Final Edition GM 1
« Reply #42 on: April 04, 2018, 12:11:59 PM »
I agree. Jake was by their bench and said that his ACs were saying some pretty dumb things during the game. If I had to guess, these were dads trying to get their sons ready for "high school ball".

I'm curious, genuinely curious, how does using a spring football league help prepare 8th graders for high school football? 

I can see how in basketball and maybe a couple other sports actually playing games against older competition would help prepare you for the increase in speed and physicality, but how does playing in a football league with and against other players in your grade help prepare you for the next level? 

I'm not a big football guy, so I'm being genuine in asking this.

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Re: My Fall 2018 Spring Season - Final Edition GM 1
« Reply #43 on: April 04, 2018, 12:33:59 PM »
That's not really how that stat works.

turnover on downs is not a turnover?
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Re: My Fall 2018 Spring Season - Final Edition GM 1
« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2018, 12:51:43 PM »
I'm curious, genuinely curious, how does using a spring football league help prepare 8th graders for high school football? 

I can see how in basketball and maybe a couple other sports actually playing games against older competition would help prepare you for the increase in speed and physicality, but how does playing in a football league with and against other players in your grade help prepare you for the next level? 

I'm not a big football guy, so I'm being genuine in asking this.

The logic is that exposing the incoming Freshmen to the HS playbook and terminology will give them a leg up this Fall. So in July, or whenever they start "2 a days", they won't be confused by "Brown Crash Right Z90 Buck Tango Option on First Sound" . . . or something.

The issue is that the logic is based on a lot of assumptions that tend to be wrong. This is a fairly large school (for around here) at about 1,800 students. It's pretty rare for a Freshman to play varsity football. The ones that do are the same size as the seniors. Regardless, playing in a Spring league running the Varsity playbook "by the numbers" will certainly prepare them for high school football more than not playing football at all. I would be concerned that getting shellacked by much better teams would have a detrimental effect.

I'd be interested in some HS coaches opinions on the subject, but only for my own curiosity. I would think they'd rather their stuff not be run at all over being run poorly.

We're not entirely innocent either. We installed a traditional punt this year because none of our guys have ever done that. So in that regard, we are getting them ready for "high school ball". Good idea? Bad idea? I honestly don't think it makes a darn bit of difference.
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