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Offline bigshel

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Re: Pop Warner Super Bowl
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2018, 08:33:01 PM »
MPR strategy is huge.  Come playoffs we also risk being limited by our MPRs, so we make it a point to invest in them.

I'm in the minority, but as a rule I generally don't play MPRs on offense.  I'd rather give up 6 points than get a kid earholed because some MPR whiffed a block.

Football is unforgiving that way.  Someone else pays the price for your daydreaming.

I'm of the opinion that every kid (MPR or not) needs to master one position on offense and defense. Each game can present its own unique set of circumstances that may allow you to put them in where you want them (in your case, defense), but circumstances may dictate that they have to go in on offense (or vice versa).

I personally prefer to play them on offense, and we do a number of things to accommodate that (flipping the O/L, distinct and simple PS and BS blocking rules, limiting the types of blocks we expect from them, etc.).

If we get a couple of touchdown lead, we'll rotate them in on defense and coach them up. Come playoffs, they're showing vast improvement on both sides of the ball. In a close game you may have to play them on either side of the ball, so you may as well prepare them for that.

MPR deployment is definitely a factor that can win or lose games. But, to my original point, turnovers are a more immediate threat IMO. Possessions are precious, especially when you only play 10 minute quarters. Each possession you give away is another possession (i.e., scoring opportunity) for your opponent.


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Re: Pop Warner Super Bowl
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2018, 10:25:07 PM »
Possessions are precious, especially when you only play 10 minute quarters. Each possession you give away is another possession (i.e., scoring opportunity) for your opponent.
Fully agree.  In fact, I'll go one further and admit I take this view of giving up first downs.  Most seasons our scoring efficiency is so high that I view every first down the defense gives up as stealing 4 plays from the offense.

For same reason I also don't draw a hard distinction between a turnover on downs and INT/fumble.  A turnover is a turnover.  In fact, TOD often gives your opponent better field position!

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Re: Pop Warner Super Bowl
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2018, 12:40:39 PM »
I view every first down the defense gives up as stealing 4 plays from the offense.

Hmmmm. That's interesting.  You're making the wheels turn here.  Thank you.

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Re: Pop Warner Super Bowl
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2018, 12:44:06 PM »
The worst thing about the Pop Warner Super Bowl (if you don't actually get there) is listening to Doug Graber "describe the action."  It's a painful and insulting endeavor.

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Re: Pop Warner Super Bowl
« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2018, 01:58:16 PM »
The worst thing about the Pop Warner Super Bowl (if you don't actually get there) is listening to Doug Graber "describe the action."  It's a painful and insulting endeavor.

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It really is bad. You would think they would do some research before calling games. Just maybe?

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Re: Pop Warner Super Bowl
« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2018, 02:26:51 PM »
It really is bad. You would think they would do some research before calling games. Just maybe?

Graber claims he does.  On more than one broadcast I heard him talk about "when I talked to their head coach at our meeting."  But regardless, he just stumbles through the broadcast offering nothing of worth or value.  Instead of at least giving the viewer down & distance, he makes remarks like an excited grandparent sitting in the stands, "Oh look, they're wearing wrist bands!"  "Look at all the different formations!"  "Look at their pretty uniforms!"  Really Doug?  What were you expecting?  Leather helmets? 

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Re: Pop Warner Super Bowl
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2018, 02:36:55 PM »
Graber claims he does.  On more than one broadcast I heard him talk about "when I talked to their head coach at our meeting."  But regardless, he just stumbles through the broadcast offering nothing of worth or value.  Instead of at least giving the viewer down & distance, he makes remarks like an excited grandparent sitting in the stands, "Oh look, they're wearing wrist bands!"  "Look at all the different formations!"  "Look at their pretty uniforms!"  Really Doug?  What were you expecting?  Leather helmets? 

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I love how every offense with one wing is considered single wing. And every time anyone runs single wing they are always deemed to be running "wildcat".

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Re: Pop Warner Super Bowl
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2018, 04:55:40 PM »
Graber claims he does.  On more than one broadcast I heard him talk about "when I talked to their head coach at our meeting."  But regardless, he just stumbles through the broadcast offering nothing of worth or value.  Instead of at least giving the viewer down & distance, he makes remarks like an excited grandparent sitting in the stands, "Oh look, they're wearing wrist bands!"  "Look at all the different formations!"  "Look at their pretty uniforms!"  Really Doug?  What were you expecting?  Leather helmets? 

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I've come to the realization that Graber is a clown. Literally comic relief.

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Re: Pop Warner Super Bowl
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2018, 05:22:30 PM »
I've come to the realization that Graber is a clown. Literally comic relief.

If he at least had a modicum of professionalism...  He is a master of the obvious observation ("Look at him go!  That was a good play!"), slurring his words as if he's on a bender, and doesn't complete his own sentences as he interrupts himself.  He seems continually surprised that teams can throw the football, or run a reverse.  He's continually confused (calls a "reverse" a "double-reverse"), doesn't know down & distance and thinks his job is to jabber (which he's horrible at), instead of providing either color or analysis.

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Re: Pop Warner Super Bowl
« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2018, 05:27:19 PM »
I've come to the realization that Graber is a clown. Literally comic relief.

Just did a search on this forum.  You and I have been complaining about this clown since 2013.  lol

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Re: Pop Warner Super Bowl
« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2018, 09:51:52 PM »
Just did a search on this forum.  You and I have been complaining about this clown since 2013.  lol

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 :P :P :P I thought I was having a case of deja vu all over again.