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Re: Renegade 10U season
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2018, 03:31:30 PM »
Never leave anything up to chance. You better make sure all parties understand. The opposing coach could have let us receive, but the game was close. He didn't say a word.
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Re: Renegade 10U season
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2018, 03:32:40 PM »
The situation has been taken to the league board.
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Re: Renegade 10U season
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2018, 03:58:15 PM »
The situation has been taken to the league board.

If they side in your favor are they going to restart the game from that point in time or something?

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Re: Renegade 10U season
« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2018, 04:19:49 PM »
If they side in your favor are they going to restart the game from that point in time or something?
No, but I guess it makes the header happy. Honestly I moved on when I knew they weren't going to reconsider. It isn't why we lost anyway.
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Re: Renegade 10U season
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2018, 07:38:48 PM »
I've seen this happen before. If you win the toss, but want the ball to start the second half, you have to use the word "defer". That means you prefer the alternating possession by half to be yours to start the second half. If you win the toss and say you want to kick, you are actually forfeiting your alternating possession, and your opponent will get your alternating possession (to start the game) and theirs (to start the second half).

Most referees know this is a fairly common misunderstanding and will explain that. Some , like the population at large, are just a$$h*les.

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Re: Renegade 10U season
« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2018, 11:37:08 PM »
Watched film of the game Monday. OK, I attempted to watch film, but it was ground level and close up. I could see the back of the defense, but only the guys in the middle. I am glad that the images of the game were still burned in my brain. Going to request a different camera man/woman.
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Re: Renegade 10U season
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2018, 11:01:02 PM »
We were taken down by a formidable opponent 13-31. They received the ball first. We had them on a 3rd and 10 and our safety decides to run towards the line of scrimmage. They throw deep middle and score. They kick off recover an onside kick. They ran a double reverse to our 1 and punch it in. Down 12-0 with 5 minutes left in the first quarter. We received the kick and went backwards 30 yards on penalties and bad runs. Called off tackle and we kept trying to get the edge. 4th down we punt, snap goes over punters head and he stopped and threw his hands up. They recover a touch down. 19-0 at the end of the first quarter. We received the kick and put together some nice runs, but they were sending the house. 2nd and 2 we throw a flood pass and score. 19-6. We kick off and they returned it for a TD. Halftime score 25-6. We returned opening kick off for TD 25-13. Subs go in and they ran the ball and got the edge no one around and they score 31-13. After all that we stalemated the last half of the 3rd and rest of the fourth. Much better than last week and against a better opponent. Lots of coaching issues and players not paying attention. I feel we will be on the twice as good next game. Still having players tap out and going in when not supposed to be in. Plan is in place for practice this week and I think will turn this thing around.
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Re: Renegade 10U season
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2018, 09:55:35 PM »
We are regressing. Nobody is remembering their jobs. Chalking, talking, walking and running it over and over again. Guards don't pull or the wrong guard pulls, fb goes wrong way on kick out, qb can't handle snap, hand off or run fake. TEs and tackles don't know rule ( inside gap/on/backer ) and wing blocks wrong man. All at different times and frustration is starting to set in. The same base plays since the beginning of practice. I will even have them point and tell me what the job is and someone still gets it wrong. One more practice before our game and hope we can get it together. Rant over. I am not getting through to them and I am starting to yell a lot. I got to calm down and breathe.
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Re: Renegade 10U season
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2018, 09:23:49 AM »
We are regressing. Nobody is remembering their jobs. Chalking, talking, walking and running it over and over again. Guards don't pull or the wrong guard pulls, fb goes wrong way on kick out, qb can't handle snap, hand off or run fake. TEs and tackles don't know rule ( inside gap/on/backer ) and wing blocks wrong man. All at different times and frustration is starting to set in. The same base plays since the beginning of practice. I will even have them point and tell me what the job is and someone still gets it wrong. One more practice before our game and hope we can get it together. Rant over. I am not getting through to them and I am starting to yell a lot. I got to calm down and breathe.

I feel you. I've been saying "we block towards the ball" for weeks now.  I've literally said, "We block toward the ball" (looking at the left side of the line). "We block toward the ball" (looking at the middle of the line). "We block toward the ball" (looking at the right side of the line). "You snap the ball and relax" (looking right into the Center's soul). Then I ask all 7 linemen "which way do we block?". I get 2 pointing left, 2 pointing right, and 3 pointing straight ahead.

One of my linemen still brags about how he tackled his guy. Another likes to get into his d-line sprinter's stance (one foot in front of the other). He doesn't even play defense. My best o-lineman? When I give him a number to block, he turns at a 45 degree angle and faces him.

My options are a) to see the humor in it and try to find a more effective way to communicate, or b) to simply go insane. Option b is far from off the table.

They are giving me tremendous effort, just not in all areas (focus) and are having fun (except for when they are crying) and so am I (except for when I am crying).
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Re: Renegade 10U season
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2018, 09:59:56 AM »
I feel you. I've been saying "we block towards the ball" for weeks now.  I've literally said, "We block toward the ball" (looking at the left side of the line). "We block toward the ball" (looking at the middle of the line). "We block toward the ball" (looking at the right side of the line). "You snap the ball and relax" (looking right into the Center's soul). Then I ask all 7 linemen "which way do we block?". I get 2 pointing left, 2 pointing right, and 3 pointing straight ahead.

One of my linemen still brags about how he tackled his guy. Another likes to get into his d-line sprinter's stance (one foot in front of the other). He doesn't even play defense. My best o-lineman? When I give him a number to block, he turns at a 45 degree angle and faces him.

My options are a) to see the humor in it and try to find a more effective way to communicate, or b) to simply go insane. Option b is far from off the table.

They are giving me tremendous effort, just not in all areas (focus) and are having fun (except for when they are crying) and so am I (except for when I am crying).

Is it possible that some of the OL think "block towards the ball" means wherever the ball is traveling?  Like they are to literally block towards wherever the ball is and that means once it is snapped, handed off, thrown, whatever. Ask them to explain what they think "block towards the ball" means.  Maybe you need to rephrase it to something like "we block towards the guy that snaps the ball".  Just spit-balling here.

With the young ones you've got to be very literal in your instruction.  They don't always pick up on phrases the way we might think.

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Re: Renegade 10U season
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2018, 10:15:16 AM »
I am going to calmly point out what was in correct and ask if they would like me to help them fix it. Whatever that answer maybe, I will go with it. They might start caring what their job is supposed to be. I haven't tried this approach yet.
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Re: Renegade 10U season
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2018, 10:43:22 AM »
Is it possible that some of the OL think "block towards the ball" means wherever the ball is traveling?  Like they are to literally block towards wherever the ball is and that means once it is snapped, handed off, thrown, whatever. Ask them to explain what they think "block towards the ball" means.  Maybe you need to rephrase it to something like "we block towards the guy that snaps the ball".  Just spit-balling here.

With the young ones you've got to be very literal in your instruction.  They don't always pick up on phrases the way we might think.

I'm open to any possibility. However, they typically have no idea where the ball is going unless they just assume because we nearly always run off tackle to the long side. I'll try that. "Block towards Jimmy".
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Re: Renegade 10U season
« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2018, 10:47:22 AM »
I am going to calmly point out what was in correct and ask if they would like me to help them fix it. Whatever that answer maybe, I will go with it. They might start caring what their job is supposed to be. I haven't tried this approach yet.

My guys may have used up my "calm" reserves for the rest of the season and are dipping into next season. I actually spoke with Mahonz at great length. After our last game, it's clear we need to turn up the heat in the physicality and accountability departments. This means turning down the heat on the yelling.

I throw my back pack out about 20 yards from our drill and calmly make them bear crawl around it if they lose focus. Seems to work much better than explaining or yelling.
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Re: Renegade 10U season
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2018, 10:54:47 AM »
I'm open to any possibility. However, they typically have no idea where the ball is going unless they just assume because we nearly always run off tackle to the long side. I'll try that. "Block towards Jimmy".

I can see it now, " Why are you blocking Jimmy?".
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Re: Renegade 10U season
« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2018, 10:57:15 AM »
I'm open to any possibility. However, they typically have no idea where the ball is going unless they just assume because we nearly always run off tackle to the long side. I'll try that. "Block towards Jimmy".
I have had them hold their hand out and move it until it points to the closest person inside of them our outside of them. You could also try Clarke's finger blocking technique.