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Offline GP

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Week 5
« on: October 10, 2017, 09:27:21 AM »
Missed practice Friday (best friend's wedding in Detroit), got back just in time for game Sunday (flight delay and all). Very sloppy start - 0-0 after the first but we got it together in the 2nd quarter. Won 36-6 to move to 5-0 in league (7-0 overall).

Offensive Stats:

25 Carries for 188 Yards (7.5 YPC), 1 TD, 1 Fumble

5-7 Passing for 77 Yards, 2 TDs

Defensive Stats:

42 Carries for 168 Yards (4.0 YPC), 1 TD

2-8 Passing for 38 Yards, 1 INT (Def TD - 105 yard return  8)).

Also had a Kick Return for TD.

Opponent was actually solid as evidenced by the 168 rushing yards. Granted 67 and the TD came in the 4th w no starters in but they had 101 at that point. Most obnoxious thing ever is hearing parents yell "PUT THE STARTERS BACK IN!" when opponent scores to make it 30-6. Bc God forbid we win 36-6 and give everyone lots of PT vs winning 48-0  ::) Doesn't bother me personally but I know those backup kids hear it which pisses me off - told the parent who yelled it to cool it.

On a brighter note our 5 TDs were scored by 5 diff players. Was also glad to finally have a game where we got a reasonable number of plays from scrimmage!

Have a weak opponent this week for HC then things should heat up again. Our focus this week is on getting better and the film sure as hell shows plenty of room for that...
« Last Edit: October 10, 2017, 09:48:34 AM by GP »
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Re: Week 5
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2017, 10:05:14 AM »
Nice job coach, and leave it to parents to ruin a good thing like playing time.

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Re: Week 5
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2017, 11:22:15 AM »
Thanks Coach. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate that we have parents who are so dialed into the games. They do a lot of great things too like making sure the kids have snacks after the games, etc. Overall a very good group which I appreciate.

But when we're up 30-0 in the 4th and an opponent scores, having a parent (or teammate or coach) yell something like that is obnoxious and demoralizing to our backups who bust their humps in practice just like the starters do. I won't allow them to be disrespected simply bc they weren't born w the same God-given abilities some of the other kids were.

Not to mention, our backups have gotten a helluva lot better as the season has progressed and getting them extended time in games is part of making that happen. The opponent left their starters in til the end so our 2s & 3s were against their 1s in the 4th. And as I noted, they had success running against our 1s too.

So it's not like those kids are totally inept they simply gave up a TD after a long, sustained drive. Made some very fixable mistakes and was a great learning experience for them which helps them continue to progress and contribute in more competitive games when we really need them.

They also stopped the conversion and then returned the ensuing kickoff for a TD  8)
« Last Edit: October 12, 2017, 11:37:38 AM by GP »
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Re: Week 5
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2017, 12:37:06 PM »
The only way a team becomes great is if the back ups get better and push the starters. They have to feel like they contribute. They have to get playing time. When you know you are going to crush an opponent then you can really give those guys a ton of snaps to include early in the game. Nice job coach. You might also want to have a meeting with parents and coaches explaining your beliefs on that. Some people just don't get it.

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Re: Week 5
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2017, 01:15:57 PM »
Thanks Coach! Always respect and appreciate your input - totally agree.

This was covered in our pre-season mtg and the parent is a returner so he knows - ppl just get caught up in the moment sometimes I suppose. Gave him a friendly reminder  :P

So far we have had one game we knew would be very competitive. Every other week, we've gone out of our way to find reasons to bench our usual starters in favor of some of those backups so we could mix them in w our 1s and get them in early and often. As you said it benefits the entire team in a multitude of ways.
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Re: Week 5
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2017, 01:30:15 PM »
Thanks Coach! Always respect and appreciate your input - totally agree.

This was covered in our pre-season mtg and the parent is a returner so he knows - ppl just get caught up in the moment sometimes I suppose. Gave him a friendly reminder  :P

So far we have had one game we knew would be very competitive. Every other week, we've gone out of our way to find reasons to bench our usual starters in favor of some of those backups so we could mix them in w our 1s and get them in early and often. As you said it benefits the entire team in a multitude of ways.

You need to do this for the good of the team and parents need to be reminded about it.  I always would love to get the game film and you could hear which parents got annoyed when we gave up (gasp) a first down.  It was like the sky was falling down and if we ever gave up a point, you could hear their blood boiling.  I would tell them afterwards (and sometimes even assistants) that it doesn't matter if we win 40-0 or 18-6.  We still won and if we end up giving up a late TD that causes us to lose the shutout because we had our backups in, who cares?  It doesn't count in tie breakers or in any standings and those "backups" could be tomorrow's starters for whatever reason.

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Re: Week 5
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2017, 01:40:45 PM »
You need to do this for the good of the team and parents need to be reminded about it.  I always would love to get the game film and you could hear which parents got annoyed when we gave up (gasp) a first down.  It was like the sky was falling down and if we ever gave up a point, you could hear their blood boiling.  I would tell them afterwards (and sometimes even assistants) that it doesn't matter if we win 40-0 or 18-6.  We still won and if we end up giving up a late TD that causes us to lose the shutout because we had our backups in, who cares?  It doesn't count in tie breakers or in any standings and those "backups" could be tomorrow's starters for whatever reason.

Privately....me and the DL coach want to crush every single opponent into oblivion.  :P

We dont just want to win....we want to rip faces off.

I agree with your post....just struck me funny. Im in a different mindset right now being the last season with this team. I might add....we are both fairly Neanderthal in our approach. Keep up or step out.
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Re: Week 5
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2017, 01:42:44 PM »
You need to do this for the good of the team and parents need to be reminded about it.  I always would love to get the game film and you could hear which parents got annoyed when we gave up (gasp) a first down.  It was like the sky was falling down and if we ever gave up a point, you could hear their blood boiling.  I would tell them afterwards (and sometimes even assistants) that it doesn't matter if we win 40-0 or 18-6.  We still won and if we end up giving up a late TD that causes us to lose the shutout because we had our backups in, who cares?  It doesn't count in tie breakers or in any standings and those "backups" could be tomorrow's starters for whatever reason.

Points against is actually a tie breaker in our league which is stupid and promotes that type of nonsense. However as I pointed out to my ACs Week 2 when we were up 38-0 and gave up a late TD, the best tie breaker is beating everyone.
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Re: Week 5
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2017, 06:39:24 PM »
Points against is actually a tie breaker in our league which is stupid and promotes that type of nonsense. However as I pointed out to my ACs Week 2 when we were up 38-0 and gave up a late TD, the best tie breaker is beating everyone.

Yes, that is a dumb tiebreaker. Glad we don't have to worry about that.

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Re: Week 5
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2017, 09:56:07 PM »
In a very competive league it is actually a good tie breaker. But really, how often is it about more than one or two teams?

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Re: Week 5
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2017, 10:02:25 PM »
In a very competive league it is actually a good tie breaker. But really, how often is it about more than one or two teams?

Any tiebreaker that encourages you to run up the score or to keep your starters in during a blowout is a crappy tiebreaker in youth football.

It may only come into play for a couple of teams, but I bet several other teams play to that rule just in case.

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Re: Week 5
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2017, 11:24:00 PM »
Any tiebreaker that encourages you to run up the score or to keep your starters in during a blowout is a crappy tiebreaker in youth football.

It may only come into play for a couple of teams, but I bet several other teams play to that rule just in case.
I rather it be points given up than points scored.

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Re: Week 5
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2017, 07:25:25 AM »
Tiebreakers should have nothing to do with points.  Figure it out, you're supposed to be adults overseeing a youth league.  It's not that hard.  Flip a f*cking coin before you encourage teams to do stupid things around points. Typical adult behavior, do what's easier for you vs. right for the kids.


Going back 10-15 years, when our conference was MUCH larger (at one point was one of the largest PW conferences in the country), we used to have a lot of ties that couldn't be broken by head to head.  Points was NEVER on the table, for, against, or in any way.  If they couldn't re-jigger the schedule to have teams play each other to resolve tie breakers, they had them all gather the Monday or Tuesday after the final regular season game and duke it out using OT rules. Ball on the 10, alternate possessions until you have a winner.  Sure, that's not "real" football per se, but at least you settled it on the field.  They might flip a coin for seed, but to get in, you determined it on the field, not on a piece of paper.

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Re: Week 5
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2017, 07:33:59 AM »
As I wrote "in a very competitive league' I thought it would go without saying that blow outs don't happen in such a league. Take the Miami PW conference for example. A team that ends up winning the NC out of that conference wins most, if not all, of their in conference games by no more than 14 pts. On many occasions the real NC game was that conferences championship game.

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Re: Week 5
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2017, 07:44:26 AM »
I hear you Rob, still don't agree.  Don't care about competitiveness, tiebreakers should have nothing to do with points.  Just my opinion...but any other opinion is dumb.   :)